File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/marxism-international.9712, message 172


Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 22:04:07 EST
From: boddhisatva <kbevans-AT-panix.com>
Subject: Re: M-I: Against Nature






		Mr. Jones,


	All right, let's stipulate petro-scarcity.  So what?  You are
talking about *global* redistribution.  Why are you wasting peoples' time
with that kind of talk?  You can't even get local redistribution.  I can't
seem to scare up a copy of Living Marxism, but from reading Heartfield's
notes I would say that he does not promote capitalist development but
industrial development.  The question is how to get industrial development
- a necessity for even a strict redistribution scheme - to the third world
most effectively, cleanly and justly.  Redistributionist, statist
strategies have no political basis for support and so many economic
problems that it doesn't even do to get into them.  The problem for the
modern Marxist is to develop socialist strategies for industrial
development based on real worker control of the means of production.  To
that end, talking in terms of state mandated de-industrialization is
preposterous.  The reality is money, markets, and industry.  The question
is how to form that into socialism.  It won't be through statism (which is
clearly implied by radical redistributionism) because statism does not
revolutionize capital, but is merely the logical extreme of reformism.  It
really doesn't matter how much oil there is because it is the
proletariat's to squander if they choose.  It is our job to put them in a
position to choose through socialist economic empowerment.


	I understand that our planet has limits, and I am not at all
comfortable with how close we are to those limits, but the
scarcity-requires-rationing-requires-state socialism equation is a bogus
one and no blueprint for revolution. 





	peace






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