Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 12:00:20 -0800 From: Mark Jones <Jones_M-AT-netcomuk.co.uk> Subject: Re: M-I: TV Documentary: Against Nature Heartfield does not like to debate but it is always possible to juxtapose the facts to his assertions. He denies the reality of global warming. This is important because if the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, whose conclusions are now being disucssed by world leaders in Kyoto, is correct then it suggests the existence of a radical constraint on industrialisation in the Third World, a fact which completely undermines the politics of LM, and of course of their spiritual masters, the World Bank, the energy cartels, the Indian landlords, the clearers of tropical rainforest etc. To the IPCC Heartfield has produced no beter rebutal than a statement made by Trotsky about the inevitability of endless industrialisation. It is unfair to burden Trotsky this way. When Heartfield and the TV programme Furedi organised talked in elegaic terms about the Narmada dam, they ignored the facts which are that the Indian government itself was forced to request that the World Bank suspend financing the dam. The reason? Not because the Indian government wanted to stop -- it clearly did not. But because of a mass movement in India against the dam. We can wait forever for Heartfield to come back on this, but no matter. It is clear that Karl Marx did not applaud the Highland Clearances or the English Enclosure Movement and was not a fan of the English Landed Interest. We can take it as read that Marx would not be in favour of the genocidal clearance of the First Nations or the genocidal activities of Latin American Latifundists or the activities of colonialists in British-ruled Africa, etc ad nauseam. We can take it for granted that Marx did not applaud the actions of W Nassau Senior when he hoped for 'at least' a million Irish deaths in the potato famine, another piece of social engineering designed to decant peasants from the land and proletarianise them. But as we see, LM and James Heartfield do not blush to support rape, murder. police brutality and the forced eviction of oustees in connection with the Narmada Dam project, because LM believe and Heartfield believe that any price is worth paying for the 'benefits' of being proletarianised. You have to admire the sheer effrontery of this kind of thing, which poses as 'Marxism'. The Narmada Dam is a project of big Indian finance and agricultural capital and its secret sponsors, behind the World Bank, are the big US agrichem interests whose scenario for the next century includes the final proletarianising of the Indian peasantry and the taking control of, and radical rfeconstruction of, former peasant agriculture into modern biotech-dominated agribusiness. You do not have to hanker for rural idiocy to reject this. You could be a Gandhi supporter and say the village is not idiotic. Or you can always take the Leninist position that it would be better to fight for socialism and to make the transition away from the village that way. Almost anything is better than the nightmarish dystopia now in preparation for the vast, immiserated landless proletariats of Asia and China in the next century, harried and hunted from the land and forced into the bloated megacities like Calcutta, which are in reality little more than death-camps waiting for the tidal inundations of the globally-warmed seas (not, I am not exaggerating). Meanwhile the exponents of Living Marxism raise both hands and shout hosannas. Actually their position is worse than Nassau Seniors, since there was some point to optimistic ideas about progress a hundred years ago or even in Trotsky's day. But there is not today, for anyone that is who does not practice ostrich-marxism and understands that the industrialisation of the thrid world ON CAPITALIST LINES is NO LONGER AN OPTION. Having ignored rebuttal on global warming, the crimes of the Narmada Dam sponsors, Heartfiled now wants to push LM's loopy ideas about population control down our throats. I was the first to recommend Listees to look at the transcripts to Furedi's preposterous programmes and I do so again now. I am looking forward to another staggering display of colossal ignorance. We shall be told there are not enough humans and that the Greens blame Third Worlders for breeding too much. The latter statement is demonstrably not the case. The first statement is - well, certifiable. I shall post the evidence of the wel-respected scientific authorities which Furedi will ignore. Heartfield too will ingore them. But I shall do it anyway, and you can make your own minds up. --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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