Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:10:58 +0000 From: Mark Jones <Jones_M-AT-netcomuk.co.uk> Subject: Re: M-I: The Struggle at Wounded Knee Carrol is right, and what is interesting about the relative 'weakness' of the US proletariat is its relative 'strength'. From its first beginnings the working class enjoyed the benefits of an immense interior and an open frontier. Thus it was always impossible to corral workers and keep down the cost of labour-power. The US wage seems to have been about 25% higher than the wage in Britain thru most of its history (and the British w/c also benefited relative to other countries by virtue of the ease of emigration). The whole mythology of freedom of choice and the American Dream is wrapped up in the Frontier mentality, which is also the essence of US w/c solidarity: the existence of Indians as folk-devils made frontier communities real and egalitarian. Yet none of these 'assets' have helped to produce a working class for-itself with a sense of a separate destiny. The frontier was always also therefore the primary mechanism for co-optation of workers within the horizons of US capitalism, producing today the world's most socially backward proletariat, perhaps. Moonshots are a poor substitute for a real frontier. I wonder if that social synthesis can survive the endless malign gnawing-away of US w/c living standards, since the mid-60s anyway, into the next century, unless colonisation of the planets becomes real? I also completely agree with what Carrol says about the freedom to manouevre of parties. The 'leninist' party can only exist as either a marginal sect in placid times, or a revolutionary wave at others. As ruling parties history shows that withjout constant purges and cultural revolutions it becomes stagnant and corrupt. Mark Carrol Cox wrote: > The weakness of the working class and the strength of the capitalist class > are not wholly to be seen as mutually determining: both can be weak or > both strong (and I think history bears this out empirically). --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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