File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1998/marxism-international.9801, message 268


Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:59:40 +1000 (EST)
From: Gary MacLennan <g.maclennan-AT-qut.edu.au>
Subject: Re: M-I: Re: On Lenin. On Moderators, the Internet, etc. etc.


At 09:49 PM 1/18/98 +0000, you wrote:
>In message <199801181706.MAA16900-AT-pobox.ids.net>, Louis R Godena
><louisgodena-AT-ids.net> writes
>>
>>Gary writes:
>>
>>> The question is do we want
>>>as moderator someone who is essentially a negative force.  I say no and
>>>would add that I think it is a scandal that we have not worked out a
>>>democratic method of electing moderators for a fixed period...
>>
>>
>>The "question" for me is whether we should allow a homogenous handful of
>>ageing, western white radical men -- "yesterday's men", so to speak -- men
>>engaged in or retired from practically identical professions outside of the
>>working class to effect a Popery here at Marxism-International.  
>>
>>I say "no".  
>
>I agree with Louis G. Nobody has laid one charge against Louis G that
>suggests he should not be moderator. What an utterly fruitless
>discussion! What clarification is taking place in the ranting about
>Pipes or Lenin? None at all.  
>-- 
>James Heartfield
>
>
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Listen,

I have not commented on Godena's views on Lenin.  though IMHO his attempt
to assume him under the rubric of the 'will to power' is a routine and
reductive exercise in Nietzscheanism.  Similarly his Stalinism is not that
of a Mark Jones or even of an Olaechea.  Stalin is admired by Godena
because of the absence of slave morality.

But all this is beside the point.  We should have elected moderators.  This
should be a democratic list.  The truth is that it is not and that the pope
is Godena himself.  

Heartfield sadly has become infected with the disease that Levy caught so
badly.  He has been exposed and bested in argument by Louis Proyect and now
he has moved to the stage of "enemy".  Hence the opportunistic endorsement
of Godena.  

But let me repeat it so even the apostle of progress-at-all-costs will
understand it.  We should have elected moderators for a set period.  

Now read that James - see there is no reference to Lenin nor the Russian
revolution.  Nor is there any attempt to set up a hierarchy.  In fact just
the opposite.  I want democracy.

Get it?


Gary MacLennan





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