Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:08:57 +0100 From: Jorn Andersen <jorn.andersen-AT-vip.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: M-I: Re: Another salvo at the state caps At 11:47 24.1.98 -0500, Bruce D. Burleson wrote: > >On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Jorn Andersen wrote: > >> May I suggest those who want to get hold of this to read something about >> permanent revolution. A starter could be Marx's 1850 March Address. > > >What? A Cliff-tendency (non-Fourth International) wants to talk about >Trotsky? Very interesting. > >During my three years in the American ISO, I was never encouraged to >read Trotsky That's certainly a fault. In general we do encourage people to read Trotsky. He is certainly one of the most important marxists this century. With Luxemburg and Gramsci he is one of the first major theorists, who deals with the problems of modern capitalism (imperialism, modern reformist working class unions etc.). Actually Tony Cliff has written a 4 vol. biography on Trotsky, where esp. vol IV, "The darker the Night, the brighter the Star" is intersting, IMO. As an introduction to Trotskys ideas I think Duncan Hallas' (SWP-UK founder member) small book "Trotsky's Marxism" is excellent. In the SWP quarterly journal "International Socialism" you will find plenty of references to Trotsky. Alex Callinicos (leading SWP-UK member) has also written a book on "Trotskyism" (which I haven't read), and Bookmarks has published a major selection of Trotsky's writings on "Fascism, Stalinism and the United Front" - at a more reasonable price than Pathfinder's. So I think you have got the wrong impression - the fault probably not yours alone. >least of all the Transitional Program (a document most >IS'ers have probably never heard of). Now I see that that is because >the IS tendency is only *nominally* Trotskyist. Yes, I *have* read the Transitional Programme. It's interesting enough, but I never understood why its become such a fetich for large parts of the Trotskyist movement. I think his writings on the United Front, on stalinism, on revolutionary strategy and tactics in relation to France in the mid-30's and, not to forget, Spain are much more interesting. A debate about who is most "Trotskyist" IMO is a sterile debate. I can only say that we consider ourselves to stand in the tradition of socialism from below, a tradition whose main theorists include Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Luxemburg, Garmsci and others. Also: Trotsky had his faults, as did Marx and Lenin. When we say that we are Marxists, Trotskyists etc. the point is not to lick their boots, but to stand on their shoulders. That way we have a chance to look farther than they could. Yours Jorn -- Jorn Andersen Internationale Socialister Copenhagen, Denmark IS-WWW: http://www2.dk-online.dk/users/is-dk/ --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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