Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: louisgodena-AT-ids.net (Louis R Godena) Subject: Heretics Reconnoiter (Was M-I: Malthusianism) Carrol lays it on the line: >[]...debates *among marxists* get fucked up when participants >select non-marxists or anti-marxists as their target. A debate among >marxists will not assume that the opponent is blaming impoverished >peasants for Bangkok brothels. >It is really hard to get a grip on this ongoing thread when it keeps >being cluttered by replies to the likes of boddhi. An odd pair of remarks coming, as they do, from one who presumably spent most of his life as a pedagogue in conversation with *non-marxists* of varying degrees of believability. I'm sure Carrol's success as a teacher derived, at least in part, from his ability to weather the arguments of his opponents with convincing ones of his own, regardless of the assumptions of his listeners. Why should we, in this forum, expect any less? And one should not assume "impoverished peasants" are simply hapless actors, waiting passively for vast impersonal forces to create their history for them. Indeed, I am sure Marxists would not "assume" any such thing. Louis Godena, co-moderator --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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