File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1998/marxism-international.9802, message 443


Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:35:02 +0000
From: "M.A.&N.G. Jones" <Jones_M-AT-netcomuk.co.uk>
Subject: Re: M-I: On Nancy Brumback


I'd have to put myself on the same perch along with the rest of you, for better
or worse. As for Nancy toppling statues of Lenin, the only one left in Moscow
is 100 feet high and solid rock, but she's welcome to come here and put her
shoulder against Nelson's Column with me. I think she probably would, too. As
for Boddi, he'll be FORCED to break rocks as part of his political
re-eductaion, when the time comes.

BTW, I am pleased to see M-Sci has come back from the dead. Now they've
discovered *12* kinds of ice, which has precipitated Chris B. into *soft*
diamat, while Dan Axtell is refusing toi budge. I think Dan's right, actually;
hell, you can't change philsophy everytime someone finds a new way to make an
ice cube. But Chris B. countered with the suggestion that Hawkings himself has
been won to the Diamat, so that's all right then.

Just thought you'd like to know.

Mark


Siddharth Chatterjee wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, M.A.&N.G. Jones wrote:
>
> > I see you've  ruffled the feathers of some of the old roosters perched
> > in the barn roof. Good on you, Nancy, let them squawk.
> > Does them good. I used to work on a farm and when the roosters got uppity
> > we shot them and sent them to the zoo as roughage for the big cats. You'd
> > need to give the cats Zantac to help them swallow this lot though.
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
> Mark,
>
> Who are the old roosters? And why do they deserve to be shot? Or were
> you being sardonic? It is very good that Nancy (and Boddhisatva too)
> want to go beyond the 'ether' of socially necessary labor time in an
> attepmpt to analyze contemporary capitalism. But their efforts seem
> similar to those of the intellectuals in the USSR toppling statues of
> Lenin. That is, they appear to be discarding the essence. Attacks on the
> LTV (law of value) is not new. In this, the capitalist economists,
> quacks and some 'Marxists' have formed a united front. But their arguments
> (I have studied some of them) are not scientific and have a high polemical
> content.
>
> Sid
>
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