Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: MIKE-AT-pseud.pseud
Subject: Re: M-INTRO: [w.k.olsen-AT-bradford.ac.uk: Re: BHA: The U.S. Government's  rush from war to war]


What exactly are you trying to get at, that the acts
that were committed against the United States were the
fault of capitalism?  If you are blaming the extremely
rich individual, are you not blaming the whole idea of
freedom?  Are you blaming the American dream for the
terror these individuals caused.  This country and
economic system has its problems, but should not be
blamed for what has happened.  Your freedoms are now
in serious trouble, in order to secure your freedom we
must fight.  For the history of the United States and
the men who have lost their lives in previous wars are
in jeopardy if we do not do something.  The ideologies
of the rich are not to blame, the individuals who
committed these terrible act are!!!  Don't forget,
their goal is kill you, the American citizen.  For
what? Your free agency and the ability to work for a
better life.  If I am wrong, please set me strait.
--- Geo-AT-pseud.pseud wrote:
> As I sit here and read all these different points of
> view about the attacks
> on the World trade Center I can think of only one
> thing.  Ignorance.  People
> are always looking for someone to blame.  The United
> States wants to blame
> bin Laden, bin Laden wants to blame the US.  And for
> what, some ideallogical
> principle that "we are not getting ours."  No one
> has pointed the finger at
> the real probelm.  All these governments are making
> the uneducated, the
> underpaid, the ingnorant, and the innocent pay for
> the wrong doings of a
> group of super wealthy Men.  Eerybody in the not so
> educated public of the
> United States is blaiming bin Laden and anybody that
> follows him for what
> has hapened to the innocent people of New  York. 
> Now bin Laden and his
> followers are blaming the United States for the
> death and carnage that their
> innocent people have been felling at the hands of
> the exploitative rich.
> People say we need to educate the masses in the
> workings of the governments
> to show who is really at fault.  What are we going
> to educate the masses
> with?  The economic sense of right and wrong that
> has been going on in third
> world countries, the governmental sense of right and
> wrong that has going on
> in the third world countries, or the right and wrong
> of innocent blood shed
> for what has gone on now in third and first world
> countires.  Who is the
> starter of this search for right and wrong?  Where
> do we start?  Everybody
> is infused with a sense of right or wrong at the
> moment.  Since everybody
> has this feeling that they were wronged everybody is
> going to fight.  We can
> sit here and say we should know about this or that
> or we should do this
> instead of that, but it just won't happen.  Because
> bin Laden and his
> followers (if they even did It) were willing to take
> such drastic steps to
> "get the attention" of the world, the world has
> already decided that it will
> take drastic steps to stop any further attention
> getting.  People are not
> looking at these acts of terrorism as political or
> even religious endevours,
> they are looking at it simply.  These are innocent
> lives that have been
> taken, not the lives of some seudo millitary
> oppresive force.  If anyone is
> to blame it should be the one who casts the first
> stone.  When was the first
> stone cast?  What we need to do is prepair for the
> worst.  We are going to
> war, no matter who knows what.  We need to learn as
> people. Not to make the
> same mistake twice.  Both articles from Hans have
> good points about the
> information that we need to teach everyone starting
> with the children.  If
> this level of desperate measure is to not happen
> agian then we should teach
> our young what happened in Afghanistan and Iran and
> Iraq and even on the
> soil of the Unitd States.  Everybody "wants theirs,"
> but are not willing
> sacrafice their own time.  Now we are about to
> sacrafice our own children,
> again, for the ideallogies of the rich Men of the
> world.
> PS.
> "You think you are a man sitting there, your
> nothing.  Th real man would be
> doing something more than talking about what should
> be done, deffinently not
> sitting there contemplating what the real man is
> going to do."  Chris
> Donahue Pittsburgh Pa
> Men and women are equal remember.
> 
> 
> 
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