From: LTC-AT-pseud.pseud
Subject: Re: M-INTRO: Patriotism
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:36:00 +0100


I sure hope Redbren is not sleeping under the blanket of freedom which 
America provides because he is about as ungrateful as they come.  Redbren is 
the type of person who brings nothing but problems about the world and no 
solutions.  If America is so bad Redbren, why don't you enlighten us on what 
the world and America should be like and quite complaining.  It is not 
shameful to be a proud member of a country.  I think it is great that people 
are proud to be patriotic to their own country, even non-Americans.  I'm 
sorry you can't look past the "consumerism" and enjoy what you have.


>From: REDBREN-AT-pseud.pseud
>Reply-To: marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: M-INTRO: Patriotism
>Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:37:35 +1100
>
>Why are you proud to be American..as distinct from British, Australian,
>Pakistani, French etc??   Does being 'American' make you better than all 
>the
>other world citizens??
>
>Why do you think Governments around the world want their citizens to be
>patriotic??
>
>Let's keep in mind that the 'nation state' has only existed for a very 
>short
>time in human history. And personally I feel that your patriotism is about
>the equivalent to 'consumerism'...a wonderful way to prop up the powers 
>that
>be whilst you can all feel so 'superior' for being "American".
>
>B
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Everett-AT-pseud.pseud>
>To: <marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:31 AM
>Subject: Re: M-INTRO: Profiteering in a time of crisis
>
>
> > I am proud to be an American.  I always have been.  For the last couple 
>of
> > years, I have been pondering why Americans do not have a deep love for
>their
> > country.  I asked why we were only flying our flags on patriotic 
>holidays.
> > It is a touching experience as I drive down the road and see the many
>flags
> > displayed in patriotism and love for our country.  However, I agree that
>it
> > is a sad display when it is only brought on by our war.  Patriotism 
>should
> > be expressed on a daily basis and not just in times of war.  It is 
>amazing
> > how capitalists can sell their vision of patriotism (flags attatched to
>cars
> > getting shredded in the highway breeze).  Is that really what it means 
>to
>be
> > patriotic, to fly a flag? to wear a pin?
> >
> > As a side note.  I know that our country's leaders do not always make 
>the
> > greatest humanitary decisions, but I look at what has been birthed from
>the
> > United States on both planes.  I am a proud American!
> >
> >
> >
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