Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:18:52 -0800 (PST)
From: RUSH-AT-pseud.pseud
Subject: Re: M-INTRO: Patriotism


Kapitalism is correct in the assumption that REDBREN
is entitled to his/her own opinion.  Unfortunately,
opinions are like assholes, and everybody has one. 
Moreover, REDBRENs comments slide out of the realm of
logical opinions.  Instead, this moron has the
audacity to declare that patriotism carries the
equivalence to consumerism, "a wonderful way to prop
up the powers that be."  Where on earth did your mind
conjure this up from?  Are you that blatantly ignorant
to realize that in many countries you would be subject
to death just for saying something like that (for
those who want an example, Iraq).  Yes, be thankful
that you are in a country that accepts your ignorance,
of course reluctantly on my part.  Be thankful that in
many cases your stupidity would be rewarded, mainly by
those in liberal institutions, such as colleges and
perhaps the corporate/liberal media.  However, I find
your opinions to be derived from the equivalent of
whale excrement, the only place they belong is at the
lowest part of the sea!  I have a country for you that
does not entail any of what you do not seek, try
Ruwanda.  



--- REDBREN-AT-pseud.pseud wrote:

> Why are you proud to be American..as distinct from
> British, Australian,
> Pakistani, French etc??   Does being 'American' make
> you better than all the
> other world citizens??
> 
> Why do you think Governments around the world want
> their citizens to be
> patriotic??
> 
> Let's keep in mind that the 'nation state' has only
> existed for a very short
> time in human history. And personally I feel that
> your patriotism is about
> the equivalent to 'consumerism'...a wonderful way to
> prop up the powers that
> be whilst you can all feel so 'superior' for being
> "American".
> 
> B
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Everett-AT-pseud.pseud>
> To: <marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:31 AM
> Subject: Re: M-INTRO: Profiteering in a time of
> crisis
> 
> 
> > I am proud to be an American.  I always have been.
>  For the last couple of
> > years, I have been pondering why Americans do not
> have a deep love for
> their
> > country.  I asked why we were only flying our
> flags on patriotic holidays.
> > It is a touching experience as I drive down the
> road and see the many
> flags
> > displayed in patriotism and love for our country. 
> However, I agree that
> it
> > is a sad display when it is only brought on by our
> war.  Patriotism should
> > be expressed on a daily basis and not just in
> times of war.  It is amazing
> > how capitalists can sell their vision of
> patriotism (flags attatched to
> cars
> > getting shredded in the highway breeze).  Is that
> really what it means to
> be
> > patriotic, to fly a flag? to wear a pin?
> >
> > As a side note.  I know that our country's leaders
> do not always make the
> > greatest humanitary decisions, but I look at what
> has been birthed from
> the
> > United States on both planes.  I am a proud
> American!
> >
> >
> >
> >      --- from list
> marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
> >
> 
> 
> 
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