Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:16:27 -0800 (PST)
From: squeezy-AT-pseud.pseud
Subject: Re: M-INTRO: a 'free' country


I have a simple question for hurricane do you think
that criminals should be tried and prosecuted by a
system run by criminals? One in which criminal
activites move you higher up the ladder? A system that
supposedly does not see white or black but definitely
sees green.


--- hurricane-AT-pseud.pseud wrote:
> I like this topic of a "free" country.  Everyone has
> brought up some 
> interesting points.  I think we need to remember
> with freedom comes 
> responsibility.  We do have a lot of people that are
> probably serving 
> prision sentences that are too much for the crimes
> they commited, but we 
> should remember that they are still crimes that need
> punishment.  Not all 
> prison is for rehabilitation, there has to be some
> punishment for crimes.
> 
> I understand that rehabilitation is necessary to
> help people change their 
> lives, but we cannot overlook the criminal acts that
> got these people in the 
> criminal justice system in the first place.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: RUSH-AT-pseud.pseud
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> >Subject: Re: M-INTRO: a 'free' country
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> >"Three Strikes" punishment in not a uniform law
> used
> >in all states.  In fact, it is California that
> >implemented this ridiculous system.  It doesn't
> work,
> >but that is beside the point.  The point being that
> >using this example in terms of how American law
> works
> >in a free system doesn't hold clout....
> >
> >--- Tamar_Herzberg-AT-pseud.pseud wrote:
> > >  --- REDBREN-AT-pseud.pseud wrote: > On December
> 01,
> > > 2001
> > >  calvin-AT-pseud.pseud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "The whole concept of a "free" country now has
> a
> > > new
> > > > meaning"
> > > >
> > > > What meaning might that be??
> > >
> > > I'll tell you: -
> > >
> > > The United States has the highest rate of
> prisoners
> > > in
> > > the world, per population.
> > >
> > > Most of these prisoners are held on non-violent
> and
> > > minor drug charges that in other, less-free
> > > countries,
> > > such as the Netherlands, are either disregarded
> or
> > > dealt with in other ways (in-community
> > > rehabilitation,
> > > for example).
> > >
> > > Some are held for long sentences, because they
> stole
> > > a
> > > box of cigarettes or signed a bad check.
> Americans
> > > call this free system "Three Strikes Out".
> > >
> > > Needless to say, that instead of getting any fat
> > > rich
> > > drug dealers, the system is full of poor people
> with
> > > minor offences.
> > >
> > > One in three African American men had either
> been in
> > > some sort of imprisonment, or is right now.
> > >
> > > In many states, if you have been convicted in
> any
> > > felony and served time, you can't vote (no
> matter
> > > how
> > > "rehabilitated" you are later). In other words,
> > > America also has the most democratic system in
> the
> > > world.
> > >
> > >
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