From: Ivan_Ivanovich-AT-pseud.pseud Subject: M-INTRO: RE: Bobcat and War in Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:31:58 -0600 I find it funny that Bobcat starts by saying that he personally doesn't know if our (US) leaders had anything to do with 9/11, for "[he is] hardly an expert on the subject," and then proceeds to give a thorough and presumably expert accounting of what he "knows." I have to take issue with the four opportunities that he identifies as being provided by this heinous attack on innocent men, women, and children. First- [The emergence of a new "enemy state" to make Americans fear, replacing the now-obsolete Soviet threat and the Chinese threat which never really materialized.] What new enemy state is he talking about? It would hardly seem logical that he would refer to Iraq in this context. Though Iraq was named and targeted as an enemy state, bobcat seems to refer to some other state that is still in existence, the "fear" of which allows the US Govt to... what? How did the US Govt us fear of the CCCP to manipulate the US people? Manipulate the people into doing what? For what ends? Arguably, the fear of terrorism is an factor that inspires new legislation, but terrorism is not an "Enemy STATE." Second- [The chance to return "favors for favors" by giving loyal businesses huge profits in a monopolistic environment (read HALLIBURTON)] I see, the US Govt concocted a war for profit! It is so logical! Apparently the first rule of politics is no longer "Get re-elected," but rather "Endanger re-election by standing up for what is right and by choosing a corporation with which we no longer have any ties to ease the burden on the US military by supervising non-combat efforts in which the corporation specializes..." Wait, how does this translate into profit or gain for the Govt? Third- [Reason to take our minds off of messy domestic issues for which the government had no answers] Messy issues, messy issues... Hmm. I guess you are referring to the recession that started during the 2nd quarter of Pres Bush's first year in office, the recession that obviously had its beginnings during the Clinton administration, the recession that was exacerbated by the effects of foreign terrorists. By no answers do you mean, no solutions? If so, you might be interested to look at the current growth rates, rates that are so high it has the Fed worried about inflation... Seems like a solution to me. Fourth- [Revenge for "Daddy's war" when the senior Bush allowed for peace without overthrowing Iraq entirely] Ok. Here I finally see your point- though the use of the word revenge, which means: To inflict harm in return for, as an injury, insult, etc.; to exact satisfaction for, under a sense of injury; to avenge; seems a little out of place. Pres Bush (41) received no injury or insult by following the UN resolution in only expelling the Iraqi forces from Kuwait. If anyone was wronged it was the Iraqi people that were waiting for a liberation that did not come for 12 more years. Pres Bush (43) did "finish the job" that the Israelis (by blowing up Saddam's nuclear project) started, and Pres Bush (41) neglected to finish (the liberation of one of the most oppressed peoples of the world.) I guess I feel strongly about this topic too. I was one of those who would never had the opportunity to live through a hot desert operation if it weren't necessary for the security of the US and the good of the Iraqi people. Where were you the summer of 2003? _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx --- from list marxism-intro-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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