File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1997/97-02-10.192, message 17


Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:24:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Schwartz <jschwart-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Re: M-TH: Re: Trust/state



Libertarianism is professedly and openly anti-democratic. Hayek ans Mises
hatred democracy. Hayek, a rather poor political theorist, advocated the
theory of democratic elitism, basically, giving the people some limited
right to select among which group of their betters should run the
government every some years, and otherwise stay out of it. He thought that
the people are hoi poloi, ignoramuses, irrational, always haring off after
Communism, or Nazism, or the welfare state or some other ill-considered
demagogic scheme.

Nozick says that dictatorship by the many (which we call democracy) is
still dictatorship. He fails to quote Marx on this, inexplicably. He says
that freedom requires the ability and right to sell yourself into slavery
if you want to.

For Locke of course "the people" were property owners and the propertyless
didn't get a franchise. The chief end of entering into government is to
protect propertyy, after all, and they didn't have any. He sort of forgot
that his own theory said that they owned themselves and their own labor,
which one might regard as an important species of property or anyway
worthy of protection.

Less cantakerously, libertarians think that democracy is limited sharplyu
by rightsa, and that property rights are a limit on what the people can
muck with. They can't take away my property by force and gie it to you,
the essence of redistribution as they see it.

--Justin

On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:

> Chris Sciabarra's recent postings on the state make me wonder about
> another, related question: the anti-democratic aspects of libertarian
> thought. Libertarians, of course, valorize individual freedom above all
> (and I'll leave aside the freedom from/to controversy for simplicity's
> sake). So if the majority of a society decides to do something -
> redistributionist economic policy or a public investment program to take
> two relevant examples - this would presumably violate the liberties of the
> individual, and be therefore verboten in the libertarian utopia. This
> becomes a formula for minority rule, and we all know which minority, the
> rich. Libertarians profess to hate institutions of concentrated power, but
> they never seem to turn their critical attentions onto money, which, as
> Negri pungently put it, has one face, that of the boss.
> 
> Doug
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