Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:38:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Santiago Colas <scolas-AT-umich.edu>
Subject: Re: M-TH: Proyect's thesis


Usually I see these and just ignore, but tonight, for some reason, I can't
resist.  Why does it seem to me that in these exchanges I'm hearing only
part of a conversation?  I think because there seem to be behind them a
history of personal animosity that seems to stem from somewhere before and
beyond this list.  Though it has seemed to me also that everyone who has
participated has, in fact, real personal and intellectual stakes in the
topics that might be discussed on a list like this one, in the sort of
exchanges we've been witnessing of late, it appears to me that the
personal issues are emerging thinly veiled in a lexicon of epithets drawn
>from the, again, real personal and intellectual issues that seem like the
proper substance for posts to the list.  I don't actually care too much
about this right now (though it is cluttering up my mailbox and if I
remembered how to unsubscribe I would have by now) but if this seemingly
purely personal namecalling (it would insult my children to call it
childish) is what passes for political and intellectual discussion,
debate, and polemic surrounding marxism on this list, then no wonder it is
a relatively isolated and insignificant political practice and
intellectual discourse in this country today.  
Santiago


On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Justin Schwartz wrote:

> 
> Will you guys grow up? --jks
> 
> On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Gerald Levy wrote:
> 
> > Louis Proyect wrote:
> > 
> > > Louis: Mud? Of course, you will be getting more of it on a daily basis. You
> > > have been spoiling for a fight with me for months and now you are going to
> > > get it. Major league.
> > 
> > I have no intention of wasting my time, or the time of m-th subscribers,
> > responding to you. 
> > 
> > You want to sling mud? Go right ahead. It's what you are best at. 
> > 
> > However, since you have been politically isolated and exposed for what you
> > are, I see no point in engaging in a "fight" with you.  Since you have
> > nothing of relevance to say and represent only yourself (and the few
> > members of your unprincipled clique), there is no point in talking to
> > you.  But, go right ahead,: sling more mud. Someday you will reealize that
> > no one cares and that with each post you reveal  your own political
> > bankruptcy and desparation.
> > 
> > btw, although you implicitly recognize it, you still haven't stated the
> > obvious: you LOST. You made your bed with the Stalinists and now you are
> > in bed alone. It's too late for you to do anything about it now. Get over
> > it. Get a life.
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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