Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 23:27:43 +0200 From: Hugh Rodwell <m-14970-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se> Subject: M-TH: "Crisis-free accumulation" and value theory >Hugh Rodwell wrote: > >>As for Doug's question about the use of value theory that can't be provided >>by bourgeois statistics, the obvious answer is that it provides an answer >>to the question of the centre of gravity of prices, around which they >>fluctuate. > >So does Ricardian value theory, no? > > >Doug And guess why Marx started from Ricardo's treatment of value when he investigated the behaviour of commodities in production and distribution in capitalist society? -- because it was so powerfully explanatory. And guess why the toughest times Marx had digging the foundations of his theory so they would be really solid were a) exploding the Ricardian & Smithian myth of annual production as equal to the newly added value of the year in question (ie they ignore constant capital produced before the year in question) -- a central problem in accumulation theory and b) hunting down the fallacies in Ricardo's views on how value theory determines ground-rent. See *Theories of Surplus Value* Part II, chs 11,12 & 13 for rent and ch 17 in particular for annual production, the departments of the economy and accumulation. There's good stuff in The Grundrisse too on the importance of taking constant capital into account in relation to accumulation, but Theories of Surplus Value is where Marx cracks it. Presumably ignoring TSV and the wrestling with Ricardo is what leads the stable equilibrium crowd to leverage the schemes of Capital 2 so shamelessly and wrong-headedly. Capital 2 is so smooth in its presentation you wouldn't dream there were any number of horrors to be overcome getting there, but TSV turns the stone and squashes the creepy crawlies one by one after first chasing them to ground. When something is this difficult for Marx, the rest of us can just look on in breathless amazement as he does his stuff. The least we can do is acknowledge that the performance took place! Without value theory, economics is as empty as physics would be without gravitation or linguistics without the innate capacity for language. With it, it becomes scientific. The irrelevance of Doug's example of Keyne's saying substituting real values for variables is nonsense, lies in the fact that capitalism represents economic prehistory -- it's unplannable, chaotic and operates with fetishized categories as far as the consciousness of its practitioners is concerned. But in a transparent and democratic society based on cooperative production by democratically managed associations of free producers it would be feasible to plan labour inputs and outputs and manage accumulation on the basis of constant, immediate feedback from consumers and producers. The tasks of economics would not be in contradiction with the relations of production as they are under capitalism. In the meantime the task of economics under capitalism is to lay bare the process of exploitation, the mechanisms veiling exploitation and the historical tendency of the capitalist mode of production to transform itself (with the necessary political help of revolutionary socialists) into its opposite and successor, the socialist mode of production. None of these tasks is possible without value theory -- you can *point* to exploitation in extreme cases, but you get stuck when it's a matter of everyday exploitation in "well-run" capitalist operations, and it's not pointing that's needed, but *explanation*. The necessary fetishism of capitalist economic theory (and everyday economic categories) is utterly impossible to grasp without value theory -- and this means that the inadequacy of vulgar bourgeois and a lot of so-called Marxist economics goes unchallenged -- we can see this in Doug's remarks about using bourgeois statistics. As for the historical tendency of capitalism to transform itself into socialism, non-Marxist, non-value, non-dialectical conceptions of economic theory haven't got the slightest chance of even getting close to this idea and harnessing its power in the political struggle accompanying developments in the economic base. Cheers, Hugh --- from list marxism-thaxis-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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