Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 7:18:54 EDT From: boddhisatva <kbevans-AT-panix.com> Subject: Re: M-TH: Musician's create surplus value? Was: Info Revolution Rakesh, It seems to me that talking about "metaphysical" labor really reveals how far the LTV argument is stretched. After all, the entire argument hinges on the assumption that labor produces real, tangible value. Consider this: All labor, in fact all current human activity, plus the results of past labor that are currently accessible, plus the bounty of nature equals the total *potential* for reproduction. All human activity, including labor, plus the results of all accidents as well as positive, past human efforts which impinge on the present, plus all accidents of nature, plus all human tastes and fancies, equals the total *potential* for need. Labor can create need as well as benefit. If you order a steak and I burn the steak, I've created the need for another steak. Also, there's no telling how good the steak will be. If I accidently ruin the steak, and you tell your friends, my restaurant may close, putting me and everybody else in the place out of business. If my restaurant is a success and I parlay that success into a frozen dinner cooperative, then decide to add a steak dinner to my line, not knowing that the beef industry has accidentally fostered BSE, I may bankrupt the whole company just because I decided to cook a whole lot of tasty steaks. If the singer Jewel decided four years ago to pose for nude pictures (there's a tricky one, is a nude model laboring, or simply benefiting from the bounty of nature?) and Playboy gets hold of them and decides to publish (copy) them who labored? Did Jewel? Playboy? the photographer who just happened to remember her face and look through his archives? If Jewel's albums now sell two million more copies to adolescent boys who then develop a taste for female folk-rockers and popularize 10 new acts, who labored and when did that labor develop a defined value? If, conversely, Jewel's career is destroyed and half a million CD's are left on the shelves, did she do anti-labor? If Jewel's doctor concludes that her healthy physique and dreamy voice are the result of her mother's application upon her as a baby of a native Alaskan herbal unguent, creating huge demand for this health miracle, what was the value of the native Alaskans' work before everybody discovered their brew? Does the fact that it now helps more people change its value? What is the value of the experimentation that developed the lotion? What was it before everyone knew about it? I could go on, but the point is clear: If you try to assign an absolute value, or even a positive or negative value, to the product of labor before it is consumed you are doomed to contradictions. All you can do is say that labor creates a potential, and make your best estimate at what that potential might be. The potential is not determined until the labor-product is consumed. While basic human needs certainly create defined economic underpinnings, they can vary due to natural causes, and under exploitative circumstances there is not even the assurance that life-sustaining needs will be met (consider the Potato Famine). The LTV is an attempt at a Newtonian construct in a chaotic, quantum-mechanical world. If physicists can accept their fate, then economists should be able to do the same. peace --- from list marxism-thaxis-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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