File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1997/marxism-thaxis.9711, message 69


Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:01:56 +0200 (EET)
From: j laari <jlaari-AT-cc.jyu.fi>
Subject: M-TH: Re:Re: power 


Greetings

Jurriaan, I'm beginning to catch your point. One remark: there are
also power relations that can't exist without "symbolic" (ideology),
therefore we have to keep our eyes on the nature of those relations. 
It's true that not all power relations are mediated through symbolic,
but they might be the most obvious ones as power relations - though
sometimes not. More important are the ones that are 'naturalised' so
that we easily think it's a question of natural states of things,
instead of murky, intended, laboriously created states. 

" Obviously, though not necessarily, the state plays an important role
in military power, in sofar as it is normally in control and able to
mobilise military forces.  I agree that as long as there is a symbolic
dimension to human life, there will be power related to it.  I am
merely distinguishing between symbolic relations and the power
relations which are expressed through them. What is the nature of the
research you are working on ?  " 

It's just quite ordinary (boring) problem about the societal 
'modernization'. 

Jukka L 



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