From: "Rebecca Peoples" <wellsfargo-AT-tinet.ie>
Subject: Re: M-TH: Class consciousness
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:02:55 -0800


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To James:

So good ideas are just good ideas. They are neither reactionary nor revolutionary. They transcend class.

Ah stop............


Rebecca
-----Original Message-----
    From: James Heartfield <James-AT-heartfield.demon.co.uk>
    To: marxism-thaxis-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU <marxism-thaxis-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU>
    Date: 02 December 1997 17:33
    Subject: Re: M-TH: Class consciousness
   
   
    In message <01bcff8a$882495c0$LocalHost-AT-thinktank>, Rebecca Peoples
    <wellsfargo-AT-tinet.ie> writes
    >James never asks himself why the bourgeoisie should allow "revolutionaries" like
    >the RCP membership present their "revolutionary" views on telly if they  pose a
    >revolutionary threat to the system especially in a period when, as he claims,
    >there is no working class movement.
   
    Rebecca seems to be arguing that if something was on TV then it must be
    counter-revolutionary. In fact Channel4 commissioned the film because it
    was a good idea, and showed it because it was well made. However, if you
    suspect it was counter-revolutionary, then why don't you read the
    transcript on the Channel4 website and decide for yourself, instead of
    using a priori reasoning.
   
    You might recall that at the height of the Western intervention in
    Yugoslavia, Living Marxism correspondent Joan Hoey made a documentary
    for Channel4 challenging the media's war propaganda. In 1980, we made an
    open door programme about the detention of refugees. Its not easy to get
    something challenging on TV, but with a bit of work, it can be done.
   
    Fraternally
    --
    James Heartfield
   
   
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-----Original Message-----
From: James Heartfield <James-AT-heartfield.demon.co.uk>
To: marxism-thaxis-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU <marxism-thaxis-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU>
Date: 02 December 1997 17:33
Subject: Re: M-TH: Class consciousness

In message <01bcff8a$882495c0$LocalHost-AT-thinktank>, Rebecca Peoples
<wellsfargo-AT-tinet.ie> writes
>James never asks himself why the bourgeoisie should allow "revolutionaries" like
>the RCP membership present their "revolutionary" views on telly if they  pose a
>revolutionary threat to the system especially in a period when, as he claims,
>there is no working class movement.

Rebecca seems to be arguing that if something was on TV then it must be
counter-revolutionary. In fact Channel4 commissioned the film because it
was a good idea, and showed it because it was well made. However, if you
suspect it was counter-revolutionary, then why don't you read the
transcript on the Channel4 website and decide for yourself, instead of
using a priori reasoning.

You might recall that at the height of the Western intervention in
Yugoslavia, Living Marxism correspondent Joan Hoey made a documentary
for Channel4 challenging the media's war propaganda. In 1980, we made an
open door programme about the detention of refugees. Its not easy to get
something challenging on TV, but with a bit of work, it can be done.

Fraternally
--
James Heartfield


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