File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1997/marxism-thaxis.9712, message 352


Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:24:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis R Redmond <dredmond-AT-gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Subject: M-TH: Re: Men and Feminism


On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, jurriaan bendien wrote:

> Feminist methods of organising must in many cases be fought because they
> disorganise political groups and movements. Example: when I was involved in
> building a new socialist group in New Zealand, we had in our group quite a
> number of couples and single women with kids.  The feminists continually
> wanted to bring up and discuss who was going to look after the kids,
> developing a "correct approach to childcare", and they argued for a
> "politically correct creche rotation system" whereby each member of the
> group would "gain experience" looking after the kids.  However other women
> (and men) were saying they didn't want to come to the meeting to look after
> kids, they wanted to discuss politics.  There was endless dispute and
> haranguing about it until the Marxists got sick of it, pooled funds and
> decided to hire in someone to look after the kids so that we could get on
> with discussing our political work.   

There you have Neanderthal thinking in all its glory: the holy bond of
socialist proletarian unity was rent asunder by those darn overproductive,
overdiscussive females. Imagine the gall and temerity of asking the men
to get off their ass and help out with raising the kids and doing the
dishes! After all, everyone knows that the thought-bubbles of white,
educated, Marxoid Euro-American males (around 0.1% of the world
population) are far more important than whatever the women (50% of the
world population) could possibly be thinking or doing. It all leads quite
naturally to the logical conclusion: these rentier radicals then hire an
au pair sub-prole, instead of changing the diapers themselves. 

Jurriaan, if you're gonna indulge in MarxPorn, at least be creative
about it. Why not tell us some exciting tales about the leather scene in
Amsterdam? Or hashish runs at the local bakeshop? 

-- Dennis




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