From: Bautiste <Bautiste-AT-aol.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:04:39 EST
Subject: Re: M-TH: Reality Check


In a message dated 98-01-10 20:36:16 EST, you write:

<< Chuck, *every* marxist knows that. *Of course* the *individual firm* is
 *highly organized*: that is absolutely fundamental to marxism. It is
 capitalism AS A WHOLE that is disorganized. That is what *Capital* is all
 about: the anarchy of production, NOT IN THE INDIVIDUAL FIRM but in the
 economy as a whole. Anyone who thinks marxists believe individual
 corporations to be chaotic ought to drop the marxism list and spend his
 life reading dilbert: you have nothing to say to marxists until you learn,
 not the ABCs of marxism but the A to AAAAbs of marxism.
 
Carroll, I think you miss the point. The companies themselves are not only
well organized, so is the entire capitalistic enterprise -- at least as it is
practiced in the western nations. I think the Marxists do not give the
capitalists enough credit for being good at what they do. Nor do I think many
Marxists know what really goes on in the everyday life of people who have to
deal with the corporate world. 

This is what motivated my outburst: the feeling of surrealism I get every time
I hear a marxist talk about the world I am supposed to inhabit. Let me give an
example: many marxists and leftists are against the movement towards the use
of consultants and contractors  among large companies. this is supposed to be
the demise of the working class and a threat to my financial stability. Yet, I
can say now that being a consultant can be very very lucrative. I do this and
I make a pretty good living; more than I would if I were to go permanent. I
can, in fact, make much more money as a consultant than I can as a permanent
employee. Now, the point of this exercise in reality is that what I know from
my work experience does not correlate in any way with what I hear from the
leftist or marxist camps.

Could it be this starry-eyed surrealism from the Marxist camps that makes most
of what they say _irrelevant_? 

fraternally,

chuck miller


 Carrol >>


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