From: LeoCasey <LeoCasey-AT-aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:44:40 EST Subject: M-TH: Morality and Law Are Not Necessarily The Same Thing James H. writes: Leo asked: [...] is an abortion for sex selection morally wrong? And he replies: <<I think this is a good challenge, and I think it should be taken on squarely. If you support free abortion on demand then it should include abortion in pursuit of sex selection. This is at the limit point of the rights question and might seem perverse, but my reasoning would be this: If abortions are restricted to prevent sex selection the state assumes the right to act on the behalf of a wider social good against women's choices. Even if that choice is made for bad reasons, the possiblity of a positive outcome is greater if the choice exists than if it does not. Having the right includes the right to do the wrong thing. You can only learn to make good decisions if you exercise you right to make decisions on your own behalf. The idea that the state should prevent women from making choices on the grounds that those choices might be subtley coerced, or made under bad influences is the greater evil. I appreciate that it stretches the point, but a woman's right to choose is a woman's right to choose. To presume that her choices are for the wrong reasons, or that she lacks the ability to make her own choices, means denying her rights. It locates decision-making at an alienated level of the state, and a questionable social good. In Britain it is common for hospitals to refuse scans to asian mothers on the grounds that they are more likely to seek termination of female fetuses. That might be true, but it is still a gross intrusion.>> Since James actually speaks to the issue, it may be possible to establish some meaningful dialogue here. It has become apparent to me, over the course of this debate, that there is a underlying premise to the arguments of the 'non- morality' school which most of the remainder of us do not share. Simply put, there is a belief that once you establish a matter as a question of morality, of right and wrong, the state is compelled to intervene on the 'right' side. Thus, if we insist that there are moral choices to be made with respect to reproductive decision-making, they conclude, we must be putting forward a 'trojan horse' for state intervention in decisions over abortion. The problem is that our Trotskyists and Stalinists start from the authoritarian premise that the state ought to determine all questions of morality. Call me a liberal if you want, but I happen to believe that there are areas of morality which should be private, and not the realm of state choice. Thus, there are a whole host of issues regarding interpersonal relations which I see as matters of morality, questions of whether or not the other person as treated as a person in their own right as opposed to an object to be used, which should not be legislated. Is it right to sleep with someone just to obtain some other end, such as money or status? I think not. Should the issue be legislated? No. Now clearly some moral issues should be legislated. Clitoridectomies are, to my mind, clearly immoral, and should be banned. Whatever the influences on a mother or a father who submits a daughter to such mutiliation, it is morally wrong on their part. It is also easy to legislate since there is no conceivable moral justification for ever iniatiating such a procedure, and so it can be simply prohibited. (I am not enough of a cultural relativist to accept that because a given culture has a certain set of customs, no one else can judge those customs. That is as sure a recipe for the oppression of women as anything. The examples are numerous, from footbinding to throwing oneself on one's husband's funeral pyre.) The problem with abortion is that far more often than not, there are morally justifiable reasons for having an abortion, and so an across the board prohibition of abortion is not justified, and would do far more harm than good. Moreover, even though certain abortions, such as abortion for sex selection, are morally wrong, there is no practical or feasible way to identify when that is the reason -- all a person has to do is hide their motive -- and so no way to prohibit the morally unjustified without also banning the morally justified. Thus, James H. is correct, in my view, in arguing that there should be no restrictions on abortion with respect to the motive for abortions. He is also correct in seeing that this means that a person may very well do the wrong thing. This is why I believe that one of the more powerful pro-choice arguments is that women are the moral agents most likely to make the right decisions with respect to reproductive freedom. There needs to be discussion of ethics and morality which does not involve calls for state intervention. Such discussions can help us in making the right decisions on what to do. Leo --- from list marxism-thaxis-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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