Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:43:39 -0500 From: Louis Proyect <lnp3-AT-columbia.edu> Subject: Re: M-TH: Marine biodiversity and soil fertility James Heartfield: >Also you should understand that the concept of 'ecosystems' is just an >anthropomorphic imposition upon nature. It is meant to imply a fragility >in the natural interdependence of species. But, like its conterpart in >economics, equilibrium theory, the theory of fragile ecosystems is a >fiction. In fact natural cycles are being overturned and reconstituted >throughout natural history. That's what the theory of natural selection >is. This is rubbish. When the Exxon Valdese ran aground in Alaska's waters, it had an enormously destructive impact on the ecosystem. There had been changes in the natural world for millions of years. Species became extinct because of climate changes, volcanic eruptions, exhaustion of food supplies, desertification, etc. The first type of problem is produced by capitalism, the second is produced by nature itself. If the Amazon rainforest is left to itself, there will no doubt be changes that are a function of the interaction between flora, fauna and the elements. What socialists are concerned about, however, is the wholesale destruction of this ecosystem by multinational corporations. These corporations are making private decisions about how old-growth timber should be used. They decide that they would make good furniture. Humanity is not involved in this decision. We might prefer to have such trees produce medicine or to cool the atmosphere. Our debate with Jesus Zarathustra Jr. and Mr. Heartfield is over the fate of such resources. They share with the capitalist class, and its ideologues like Julian Simon, the belief that capital accumulation takes priority over the greater good of humanity. What's good for General Motors is good for America, so to speak. Mr. Zarathustra never was a socialist, while Mr. Heartfield's cult used to be part of the socialist movement. The reason they bow down before the capitalist class is that they have a confused notion of what Marxism is about. They have a vulgar Marxist notion that the expansion of capitalism is beneficial. When Marx and Engels wrote the Communist Manifesto, the capitalist class was in some ways a revolutionary class. Even then, they saw capitalism as a destructive system that had to be replaced by socialism immediately. This vision of socialism has been lost by Mr. Heartfield, while it never was taken seriously by the libertarian troll, Jesus Boddhisatva Jr. Louis Proyect --- from list marxism-thaxis-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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