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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:32:13 +0100
From: Hugh Rodwell <m-14970-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se>
Subject: M-TH: Re: Fordism Still Reigns?


Here are some reasonable observations from Doug H:

>There are *always* major transformations taking place in the world economy;
>I think the burden of proof is on those who argue that there's been some
>kind of epochal break in capitalism that's different in degree or kind from
>previous transformations. But how is the collection of phenomena referred
>to as post-Fordism any more radical an innovation than were the steamship
>or the railroad or the automobile or the telephone?
>
>In what sense is industrial capitalism itself "quickly being surpassed"? Do
>we not have big industries cranking out lots of stuff? Aren't computers and
>telephones and all the other totems of the Information Age mass produced by
>industrial workers? Don't the First World economies still depend on high
>levels of mass consumption? As Larry Summers says, you've got to
>demonstrate what the supposed revolution in production has revolutionized
><http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/Globalization_sequel.html>.

Now, let's have some conclusions -- like the state and position of the
working class in relation to capital and capitalism and revolution!!

Cheers,

Hugh

PS If Yoshie can give us conclusions, why can't Doug who's seen so much
more (at least chronologically speaking) and is so much better placed?




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