Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:23:30 -0500
From: "Charles Brown" <charlesb-AT-CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us>
Subject: Re: SV: M-TH: cyberseminar announcement




 Ms. Trahn commented as follows:
Doug:
> >>Shining Barf
> >
> >Shining Barf, oh that's richly original.
> >Doug
>
 Bob Malecki:
> Doug I think Hugh was quite explicit in citing his sources..the huge
> debate on the old m1 which is in the archives..
> In fact like Hugh says the first victims of the Maoist are
> Trotskyists and trade union leaders. And certainly the bans imposed
> on M-I by Godena are a good example of this...
> And Doug supported this shit! Especially on M1 if I remember
> correctly. This were the days of the Proyect --Henwood rotten
> block..
> Warm Regards
> Bob Malecki

       I have gone through the archives and I have acces to a set of
CD's that a friend made containing almost all the Spoons Marxism
lists(650 MB)per CD.As far as " Shining Barf"goes I suppose it's a
slight improvement from Carlos and his never ending "shiny
shit"posts I am sure many people will recall from the old M-list.
      I think much of this goes back to the Trotsky/Stalin list
debates(wars) that I feel are a major _HANGOVER_that affects the
American left to this very day.This debate goes nowhere and seems
that nothing constructive ever comes out of it.Didn't someone say
some of these feuds had been going on for two years.Then will someone
please tell me,whats the point?

---------------

Charles Brown- says
     Yes we have the Trotsky/Stalin as Mutt/Jeff
act on this list for its entertainment value.
 Only the Troskyists have to play both roles
to keep it going, because not too many
people think of themselves as Stalinists.
For Trotskyists, if you have certain positions ,
you are a Stalinist and don't know it.
      This Mutt/Jeff stuff is  not petit bourgeois,
armchair revolutionism as  you might think.

    Ha Ha; we also have a lot of "satire"/sarcasm
on this list
    and literary critics who
will explain the subtleties
       of it for us.

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