File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1998/marxism-thaxis.9803, message 289


From: "Bob Malecki" <malecki-AT-mail.bip.net>
Subject: M-TH: Morenoites smell sulphur!! Kosova, Chile, Indonesia...
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:26:44 +0100



--Yoshie in reply to Hugh!


>Hugh wrote:
>>And this is pre-revolutionary stuff! No revolutionary crisis in sight,
just
>>the usual world pre-revolutionary timebomb situation but with the cracks
>>opening up so we can see some of the magma boiling underneath the surface.
>>
>>We saw the biggest demos for decades in Kosova, media savvy demonstrators
>>with placards in English, a commentator on CNN (James Hooper of the Balkan
>>Institute) saying Milosevic' is gearing up for a Bosnian genocide drive
and
>>ethnic cleansing of the 98% Albanian population and that he's now been
>>given a green light by the imperialists in London.
>>
>>So how about it everybody? No revolutionary mileage in the national
>>question in Kosova? No popular demands that need to be met for democratic
>>representation and national rights? No great majority of the population
>>ready to rise up and solve these questions? No scope for an application of
>>the Permanent Revolution and transitional demands explaining that only by
>>making a combined political revolution (getting rid of the Milosevic'
>>bureaucracy and instituting workers' democracy in rump Yugoslavia
including
>>Kosova), international & social revolution (overthrowing the
>>restorationists in all of the republics of ex-Yugoslavia) and national
>>revolution (for the autonomy of Kosova) will it be possible to end the
>>repression and the grinding and worsening poverty?
>
>Are those Albanians with their placards in English making demands for
>workers' democracy now? (I am asking a question about their consciousness
>as revealed in *their expressed demands*, not about their objective need
>for socialism.)
>
>It is my understanding that "post-socialist" secessions, wars, conflicts,
>nationalisms, etc. in the Balkans have been used mainly to increase the
>American/NATO/UN military presence in the area.
>
>Yoshie


Yoshie in two short paragraphs nails Hugh and his turn towards tailing
activism not only around Kosovo but on the Iraq crisis. She makes a very
good point that in fact the various nationalist factions in the former
Yugoslavia are begging imperialism and NATO to back "their" side in the
conflicts..

Not that Trotskyists in fact do support the rights of all minorities in this
part of the world. But unless a party develops with a program to expose all
these nationalist traitors the Albanians nor any other group of peoples will
be free..Only the working class can solve these questions..

Hugh I think has sunk to chasing movements and trying to be the best builder
these days of anything that moves without any political content what so
ever. Except everything can be and "anti-imperialist" front. From Gaulteri
in
Argentina to Sadaam in Iraq to the Nationalists in Kosovo begging Clinton to
intervene against the Serbs..

This is the gist of your operations of late Hugh. And here I am afraid we
part ways. I have waiting to see what you and your Morenoites do not only in
word but in deed. I honestly feel that your anti-imperialist activities of
late expose your opportunism as the "movement" being everything the goal
nothing!

And on the Kosovo stuff through your silence on the leadership in Kosovo are
actually supporting Clinton and the NATO intervention into this whole area.
This is the underlying motion in all this stuff and even Yoshie appears to
see through the "activist" smokescreen you are building here..

The sulphur you are smelling is the bloodbath imperialism is preparing for
the next war. And at best Hugh you have become the cheerleader of the likes
of sadaam Hussien whom you see in the "forefront" of the anti-imperialist
struggle..Unlike Hugh real Trotskyist give no political support to Sadaam or
in the case of Kosovo the nationalists who are calling on imperialism to
solve their problems..

Going on to Hughs reply to Yoshie he makes all the arguements only to in
fact capitulate to the backwardness and nationalists leaderships because of
the Morenoite pipedream that what ever moves in the third world makes them
unconcious revolutionaries who just don't understand the permanent
revolution..This is just unadulterated opportunist bullshit. No better then
any other Pabloite liquidationism in the face of the legitimate aspirations
of the masses..Hugh at best with his political line wants to find a cozy
place one step to the left of some (in this case) really horrible
nationalists. The Bosinian nationalists, the Albanian nationalists, in Iraq
the nationalist Baath party of Sadaam Hussein, in Argentina Galteri and his
generals.

They at best are the best builders of movements which are always betrayed
and the Morenoites always wonder what went wrong as they wait for the next
"movement" to be the best builders of.. In fact no other words to Hughs
answer to Yoshie can be that he speaks revolutionary words and capitulates
to the movements and those leading those movements in deeds. The most
blatantant example was trhe declaration by Hugh's international on the Iraq
crisis where they put Sadaam Hussien in the "forefront" of anti-imperialist
struggle! Well, this kind of stuff might make the Morenoites think that they
can hit the big time again. But their political opportunism and willingness
to capitulate to just about everything that moves puts them about as far
from the need of building a Bolshevik Leninist International as the USec..In
fact nothing that Hugh has brough up of late since the Iraq crisis goes
beyond the bounds of left wing Pabloism at its best. And in the case of Hugh
and Iraq putting such charming people as Sadaam Hussien and General Gaulteri
on the pedistal of being anti-imperialist fighters!

These kind of "Trotskyists" who bend like the wind to everything that moves
will never lead a proletarian revolution..

Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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