Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:24:11 -0500 (est) From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu> Subject: M-TH: Re: wiggle them hips Yoshie wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >Yeshie: Sorry about the misspelling. > >1) Stay or go. That's your decision. Just spare us the whining about it. > I return the above statement to the sender. Fair enough. > Is it sexist to take note of the gender disparity on a marxist list that is > *far worse* (I repeat) than Yale of 20 years ago, not to mention today's > *multinational corporations*? Did I say that it was? > Should marxist organizations be *more* > male-dominated than capitalist profit-making institutions? Uuuugh ... let me think. No, Marxist organizations shouldn't be _more_ male-dominated .... > Why are Marxist groups "willy-nilly dominated by men"? Why is the degree of > male domination higher here than in many other capitalist institutions? Any > thought on the matter? (See, also, my comment on your second set of > statements.) These are good questions. I have some thoughts on the matter .... which I can't express now since I have to go to work. > >6) I find your lamentations about the lack of discussion of "queer theory" > > to be rather odd especially since you were (unless my memory is failing > > me) silent when Mark Jones talked on m-int about how the _New Left > > Review_ was a "faggot-valhalla" controlled by M16. With such openly > > displayed and vicious homophobia, it is no wonder that lesbian and gay > > activists would not find the Spoons marxism lists to be particularly > > welcoming or encouraging. > This is a damned lie. So you did condemn Mark for his homophobia? Then I apologize. > >7) If you want more women, etc. on this list, why don't you just set the > > example and do some recruiting? > So it is only women's job to recruit women, but marxist men can sit around > and do nothing about it? Uuugh ... did I say that? > Is this problem not a worthy subject of discussion on the list? Should we > not think of how to correct it, instead of, as Jerry does, saying that > "Marxist groups in general, and internationally, are willy-nilly dominated > by men"? Did I say that we should not think about correcting it? > Don't posts like Jerry's (re: "Wiggle them hips") constitute a big > turn-off for women who might possibly become interested in taking part in a > list like this and marxism? So you are speaking for all women? btw, I was just using the subject line chosen by another, which you also used. > When a woman raises an issue or utters a criticism, men like Jerry > trivializes it as whining. You can not legitimately infer that if I say that you were whining, then I say that others are whining. Moreover, it is illegitimate to infer that that comment was made because "a women ... raises an issue or utters a criticism." Furthermore, you accused me of whining above. So cut the crap and the misrepresentations. Before you make such bold assertions, you had better check the record. Jerry --- from list marxism-thaxis-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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