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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:18:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Schwartz <jschwart-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Re: M-TH: Rev Jones



I hadn't been following this thread, so I missed Jones' homophobic blast.
James is entirely too gentle with with sort of stupid, reactionary, vile,
and hateful bigotry. People might look up my blast at a previous homophode,
I think on m2 some time back. Anti-gay attitudes have no arguable place in
Marxism. --jks

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, James Heartfield wrote:

> Mark Jones revies the old 'homosexuality is a bourgeois deviation' myth,
> writing:
> 
> "But let me just ask you this: if you are androgynous and late-
> capitalism happens to seek/create androgynous models of the human being
> (and maybe it's your good fortune to live in such a time, and that's
> possible -- even in Hell some people benefit, so why not under the
> latest version of capitalism?) -- does that make it OK *in general*?"
> 
> "Capitalism's capacity to turn deviancy into niche-market opportunities
> is what's made pink-capitalism such a goer, and made reactionaries out
> of so many gay people, "
> 
> I suppose you have to make allowances. The combination of the Welsh
> Chapel and Stalinism is enough to make anyone into a moralistic bigot.
> 
> It is clear that 'capitalism' means something like 'fallen from God's
> grace' to Mark.
> -- 
> James Heartfield
> 
> 
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