File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1998/marxism-thaxis.9803, message 887


From: brumback-AT-ncgate.newcollege.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:27:38 -0800
Subject: Re: M-TH: Bob on Feminists: the Class Enemy (was braindead)


Nancy writes!
>>
>>Many times, I have said what I will say again now: that I do not put gender
>>before class, just as I do not put class before gender. Just as women's
>>issues are not peripheral to class issues, so class issues are not
>>peripheral to gender issues. What this means is that capitalism, which is
>>patriarchal, is based on relations of domination and until all forms of
>>domination are overthrow, there can be no socialism.
>
>I still don't get it. You are playing with words here. Women =gender and 
>class =class..But not in your books..
>>
>>Marx knew that the social relations were part of capitalism as much as the
>>economic relations, but because he did not spell out the exact relations of
>>the social and the economic, patriarchal Marxists naturally fall into the
>>patriarchal interpretation: the class relations are more important than the
>>gender relations -- just like anything that has to do with men is more
>>important than anything that has to do with women, under patriarchy.
>
>Sure Nancy! This is feminist trash. A cover for pushing what you deny in the 
>first part of your letter and turn around and say ;
>
>>patriarchal interpretation: the class relations are more important than the
>>gender relations -
>
>where you first say;
>
> so class issues are not
>>peripheral to gender issues.
>
>I know I am stupid, but this intellectual flim flam to push you feminist 
>wares in a cloud of wordy confusion just makes t really difficult to 
>understand you..
>
>Warm regards
>Bob Malecki
>
>
>
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