File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1998/marxism-thaxis.9804, message 109


Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:16:03 -0500
From: Yoshie Furuhashi <Furuhashi.1-AT-osu.edu>
Subject: M-TH: Hugh's Dystopia (was Socially necessary sex and socially free sex)


Hugh wrote in reply to my comments on his "socially necessary sex" idea:
>>And who is asked to have 'socially necessary sex' and carry its
>>reproductive consequences? All straight women? I guess there will then be a
>>hierarchy of sexually free people (men of whatever sexuality + lesbians)
>>and sexually unfree people (straight and bi women).
>
>This was answered too. The socially necessary reproduction will probably be
>taken care of on a completely voluntary basis.
>
>>Under your communism, I guess I shall have to repress the men-loving side
>>of me, quit being a bisexual, and become a lesbian, because I don't want to
>>have 'socially necessary sex' and carry its consequences to term.
>
>Read very carefully what I wrote about the way things are in our present
>imperialist society and the unfreedom there, and the changes that will most
>likely come in a proto-socialist society.
>
>And be consistent when you're imagining a dystopia. If women are to be
>repressed as baby-machines you'll be doubly repressed for being a lesbian,
>better get sterilized. That wouldn't be my communism. My head would get the
>chop before your womb would.

So you admit that your ideas carry the implications of making women
baby-machines if things don't get done 'voluntarily.'

Very encouraging.

Yoshie




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