From: "Dave Bedggood" <dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz>
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:33:08 +0000
Subject: Re: M-TH: OPE-L


Downunder is becoming South of the West US anyway.
We have our history of bastards, but the rap stuff is all over as is 
Murdoch who outfoxed us by buying up part of the state TV here, and 
is now sniffing around the remainder. Calling him a dingo would be an 
insult to that animal.
Dave Bastard

>   Recently in the U.S. rap singers and
> Black youth culture have used "dog" as
> a term of endearment, as well as other
> terms I won't mention, one with a little
> history on this list.
>     While respecting the DownUnder
> colloquial explanations below, I would
> just mention that as a supporter of the
> abolition of the institution of monogamy
> (since it was the world historic defeat
> of the female sex), children of unmarried
> parents are the children of the future to
> me.
>                    Chas.
>                   ( a bad motherfucker)
> 
> >>> "Dave Bedggood" <dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz> 05/06 11:54 AM >>>
> Golly gosh Bill, I wouldnt worry about these Yankee gringos. 
> They are a dull lot with no understanding of what a bastard is down under. 
> There's bastards, right bastards and proper bastards. The MUA mates are just 
> bastards, the MUA officials are right bastards, and the Patricks of 
> this world are proper bastards.
> Dave. 
> 
> > Apparently antipodean bluntness is lost on a number of you.
> > My point is this, if of you want to talk about Jerry's alledged 
> > hypocrasy, or any of his many other supposed charater defects, why dont 
> > you start a list of your own with this as its main purpose. The same goes 
> > for Jerry, if you hate Doug and want to publicize the fact start a list 
> > or news group of your own - alt.dougsabastard for instance.
> > I feel confident that my views are held by a comfortable majority of the 
> > rest of the dwindling number of thaxis subscribers though we can put it 
> > to the test if thats what people want.
> > Hinrich asks,
> > >A small note to Bill: Would you have ever called your fellow list members
> > >on OPE-L "Bastards" - even in an ironically wording?
> > fair enough question, the answer is yes if they behaved like this and I 
> > was moderator however I accept I would be less likely to due to the 
> > different culture that prevails on that list. I fear though that I have 
> > fallen into a small cultural trap here as 'bastards' is used casually in 
> > NZ/Oz and inspires only minimal offence. I used it merely to signify that 
> > you collectively had irritated me to some small extent by pursuing what I 
> > consider to be a foolish line of discussion.
> > As to silencing people exactly who have Rob and I silenced, as far as I 
> > can recall the multiheaded Murray beast is about the size of it apart 
> > from speaking harshly to Bob.When we've intervened in discussions and 
> > people have wished to continue them we've backed off, if we think we're 
> > wrong we admit it and if someone calls us a pack of tossers for our 
> > moderating style we've sucked it in and worn it. I fail to see that 
> > trying to call an end to the pointless sledging on this list by calling 
> > those involved bastards will of it self silence anyone It seems however 
> > to have started a new round of lists indignantly defending their right to 
> > slag each other.
> > Bill Cochrane
> > (a complete and utter bastard)
> > 
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