Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 20:49:10 EST From: tgs-AT-cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Subject: RE: Sexism and Tom Larry, First of all, I wish you and other people would refrain from dragging our otherwise fine and open arguments down into the gutter of ad hominem whenever you get the impulse. BY saying what I said about not wanting to discourage A and R from responding, I was merely trying to avoid any possibility that I was being sexist for responding before they did, as you yourself asked. It gets so bad around here that if I'm merely male and opiniated on this question, I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't, and that in itself is a sexist double-bind. But you're not the only one--Phil thought that I wanted to go back to men's only universities because I said I was not AGAINST women producing careers! Secondly, I take sexism to mean conscious expression of inter-gender hostility. Let's be very clear why I think this way. If you use it your way-to describe any and all hostility, unconsious or conscious, you're using a perjorative term to describe something EVERYBODY feels in this society. Again, what is the point of engaging in this kind of collective ad hominem mud bath? Why not use precise terms and use especially non-perjorative terms for feelings which are universal and over which we have little control? We certainly control what we choose to consciously control--so there we have the issue of moral responsibility, which is connoted whenever we use perjoratives. Once again, let's keep ad hominem and perjoratives out of objective and dispassionate and rational social analysis, if you please! Thirdly, as I tried to discuss in my paper on rad-fem on rationalization, while of course I agree with you that there is a strong component of psychological defense to rad-fem sexism, there is also the much more important component of economic determinants--the middle class base of the leadership. Now, I'm middle class, and so are many good socialist-feminists that I know--Nancy Holmstrom, for example. They manage to be female, and evem middle class, without using reverse sexism as a defensive mechanism. Middle class existence has a contradictory reality to it--but a very strong element is the competition, which tends to give rise to both racism and sexism among the middle class. You seem to imply, Larry, that because female sexism is often a defense, it is somehow justified. But it is irrational. So how can it be justified? This defensive aspect--as opposed to the middle class competitive aspect-- is certainly understandable. But that doesn't make it justified. To confuse irrational defense with justice is to sentimentalize the problem of special oppression. Such sentimentality, such "petty moralism," leads absolutely nowhere. I don't see how white male guilt gets us anywhere. As before, I see that it paralyzes people. It certainly tends to paralyze me, when you basically say that I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Comradely, Tom ------------------
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