Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:07:37 -0800 From: vest-AT-scf.usc.edu (Tom Vest) Subject: ontology and political commitment (+) I hope you all will excuse this invitation to diverge further from explicit marxist political issues in order to explore the ontological/methodological sub-thread just a bit further. I tried to spare you all this post by inquiring first on the Ontology list, but got no responses (either everyone's dead over there or these are really bad questions --I am unable to determine which on my own). >From what (little) I've read, Bhaskar's work seems to be meant as a response to Quine's theoretical-methodological question, "To the existence of what sorts of things does belief in a given theory commit us?" that takes technology and scientific progress as indicative of the validity of something like the "conventional" empirico-deductive account of science. At some point Hans described (Bhaskar's description of) science by relating it to the ("structured," "differentiated," and "changing") ontological realm of "mechanisms" vs. the everyday world of "events." My questions are: 1. I'm quite amenable to Bhaskar's conception of fundamental reality as "changing" (if less sanguine about the "structured" and "differentiated" aspects). Regardless, using such a description, is there any point in continuing to talk about the "ontic" as distinct from other, more mundane aspects or levels of reality? Are the "differentiations" between Bhaskar's mechanisms and events simply gradations or differences of degree? 2. For marxists, is the commitment to theorizing up from the ontic level recommended by something other than (what I assume to be a prior) commitment to a specific revolutionary political program? Is it possible that this is where Leo Casey and RD adherents diverge, i.e., not so much in a specific disagreement with ontologically-informed class analysis, but in their general unwillingness/inability to plumb reality to the ontic depths? Leo? 3. As an occasional student of international relations theory, the formulation of questions of ontology in these terms sounds very much like our too-frequent debates about levels of analysis, i.e. at which level (human nature, institution, class, nation-state, international system, world system) are the primary causal determinants of international events to be found? To me these usually seem more like affirming-the-consequent-style justifications for/from theory rather than serious interrogations of theoretical presuppositions. Am I/is the discipline/department of international relations missing something important? 4. Have I taken the "linguistic turn" too seriously, or is there some way to "talk about ontology" that discounts the "talking" part of this exercise? Is this renewed interest in ontology merely a call to be more conscious of the (often unconscious) methodologies through which we seek to address particular research questions, or pursue particular politcal objectives? As a former student of a prominent RD proponent, I feel that my earlier education has seriously impeded my ability to grasp most if not all ontologically-informed arguments. As a continuing student I am seriously troubled by this fact. I would REALLY be grateful if someone would he*lp me out here. Thanks in advance, Tom Vest School of International Relations University of Southern California --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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