Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 10:41:37 BST From: Ron Press <anclondon-AT-gn.apc.org> Subject: Elephants Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From Chris Burford I feel a consensus is emerging in some quarters of this list that there are conflicts and contradictions in all societies. I recall Lisa emphasizing that the sort of non-industrialized tribal societies that are sometimes idealized, nevertheless contain conflict. I would go further and say that the processes of conflict are *part* of the dynamic that keeps a society together. The yardstick of success is efficiency in producing competitive commodities for the world market. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (First) With respect to feeling elephants in the dark. Please Chris my friend be careful to distinguish between the two long things that hang down at the two ends. Especially when it had a bowel motion. (Second). The yardstick you propose is even less than mono-dimentional. Even capital is forced to use more complex measures of their failures to succeed. (Third) The stability of an organism is its ability to keep in dynamic equilibrium with its environment and to be sufficiently flexible to accommodate those changes which occur. This dynamic equilibrium is an intermeshing of hundreds perhaps thousands of dialectal processes. ( Perhaps contradictory is a better word?) It is the very dynamic interacting processes that supply the stability. (Dialectics?) The organizational system under capital allows for much variability and flexibility. The USSR instead of increasing the possibilities of interactions and variability within a framework of Socialism increased the centralization of control. Decreased dynamism and flexibility decreased the stability. Hence under a change in environmental pressures ( Desire for consumer goods, desire for travel, a 40 year period of peace, need for innovation and greater freedom of thought and publication and so on ) the dramatic collapse occurred. Sorry to be boring but it was the system of organization of socialism that failed. (Fourth) You mention non-linear processes. I think we are in danger of generating a new broader meaning for a relatively precise mathematical operation or system. A system described in mathematical terms as Non-linear, is not necessarily oscillatory, nor leads to an attractor, ( Subject to addition and modification by mathematicians on the list) ron opress --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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