Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 09:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: jwalker <jwalker-AT-email.unc.edu> Subject: Rakesh on Turn To The Right (Our "Problem" with Liberalism) Since I was originally schooled in classic liberal political philosophy, and since I still think there's a lot right in it, I feel the need to come to its defense, a little bit. (Unfortunately I missed Leo's original post to which Rakesh is responding -- deleted with a bunch of junk mail.) On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, jones/bhandari wrote: > What are the historic origins of liberalism? As it's used nowadays "liberalism" refers to a broad group of thinkers, loosely bound together by common problems, and to some degree common methodology. It all started around the 16th century or so, when people like Hobbes, Grotius, and Pufendorf began questioning traditional doctrines of natural political authority, and searching for a new moral basis for state power. The whole idea that people have prior moral claims against the state, the king, whoever, was radical. It meant that justifying the subjection of people to political power was a nontrivial issue. > As we have seen the principles of freedom, equality,universality--once > useful for the overthrow of slavery-- can easily be used against > affirmative action. > What I am getting at is that I do not think the problem is liberalism or > democracy but our own beholdeness to the values and ideals which capital > embodied in its defining moment, in the transition from strategies of > absolute to relative surplus value, the rise in the IRA being both > consequence and cause of this development. > > We don't need a language of liberalism or democracy but a class conscious > one of freedom and human needs. > Rakesh > See, I'd have said that the language of freedom and human needs is *part* of the language of liberalism and democracy. Sure, some forms of liberalsim exalt formal equality and negative freedom over concern with fulfilling human needs. And, as you note, some of the emancipatory language of liberalism gets misused to push illiberal causes, like the opposition to affirmative action. But this just shows that those forms of liberalism, and those uses of liberal language, are misguided and wrong. Anyone can claim a right, but not every such claim is true. The claims against affirmative action are transparently wrong, I think, and can be shown to be so. In my view, the good things about Marxism include its emphasis on the class character of capitalist society and its recognition of the economic dimension of political power. These are not ideas you'll find in liberalism -- not early liberalism, anyway. But what this means is that Marxists should take what's good in liberalism and appropriate it, while jettisoning what's bad. Equality before the law, certain personal freedoms, and democratic political participation may be bourgeois, but they're truly good things, and any just state must have them, no matter what *else* we may, as Marxists, want to say about such a state. John D. Walker jwalker-AT-email.unc.edu --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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