Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:47:48 -0600 From: Lisa Rogers <EQDOMAIN.EQWQ.LROGERS-AT-EMAIL.STATE.UT.US> Subject: Re: Origins of Private Property -Reply -Reply -Reply Now there is an anthropological chesnut - "pristine" societies vs. those contaminated by contact with the outside world, especially contact with capitalism. In fact, it is not only herders and farmers that may have long had contact with state societies, traders and capitalists, but hunter-gatherers [H-G] too. Usually this argument is used to say that living H-G and other societies are not "pristine", i.e. they are not true examples of ancient societies, frozen in time, unaffected by all others around them. Schrire and Wilmsen are known for using this argument to assail all other students of H-G societies, but the critique is entirely off the mark for me and my program. We never claimed anybody was "pristine" and furthermore we don't think that the lack of it in any or all societies undermines or invalidates anything that we do. I'm curious, Jim, if you'd like to offer an explanation of just why you are concerned about pristine-ness. What is the problem in your view, how does it affect an analysis of PP and how should it be addressed? Lisa ps It is not clear what you mean by "prehistoric societies" - do you really mean to refer to time scale, or certain modes of subsistence, or what? >>> Jim Jaszewski <ab975-AT-main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> 7/21/95 [snip] But I'd caution confusing those herding (and other) societies, with a long history of interaction with more 'advanced' PP-type societies, and those original 'pristine' ones... --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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