Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:23:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Jaszewski <ab975-AT-main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Internet Chat Relay: A Forum?



On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Ryan Daum wrote:

> Having started, years ago, a #socialism channel on IRC, I can comment on 
> that medium.  Basically, the relay network sucks.  You're lucky if you 
> can hold a 10 minute conversation without the stupid thing "splitting" 
> and you losing half the net.  It's the most braindead technology I've 
> ever used.  Also the type of people who use IRC are there to get netsex, 
> harass people, or just be a pain in the ass.  One finds nettwits coming 
> into the channel and quoting Rush Limbaugh at you.  It's discouraging.

	Is it still that way?  Besides, they don't have to know about it
-- any coming in would be police agents fersure...  |>


> There are better realtime mediums than IRC.  They are a bit more 
> difficult to use, however.  MOOs are my first pick.

	I like your suggestion. If it's better than IRC, then I say, `use
it'..!!  I've stayed away from MOO's and MUD's tho', partly because I
never really got into the DND thingy, and see Trekkies as the epitomy of
false consciences (next, maybe to sportz fan-atics...)


> There is a private MOO which I hang out on that I'm sure wouldn't mind 
> some business.  It is set up for discussion of postmodern science 
> fiction, but doesn't really serve that purpose -- anybody can go there 
> and discuss if they have an invitation.  Seeing as how I know the people 
> who run it are all somewhat radical, or at least interested, they'd 
> probably love to be deluged by a flood of marxist academics.  Check it 
> out, it's called Dhalgren and to get there, do this from your shell prompt:
> 
> telnet dhalgren.english.washington.edu 7777

	Cool. I will definitely check this one out. Are we `expected'?

	I suppose that any participation by us here would have to be
coordinated. Perhaps a regular weekly time... 


> Using telnet is ugly however, and there are "clients" you can get that 
> make using MUDs much easier.  The best known one is "tinyfugue."  You'll 
> have to know how to compile unix sources to get it to work on your shell 
> account.  If you're calling from a Mac or a PC, there are mud clients 
> around.  Try an ftp session with ftp.ccs.neu.edu in the /pub/mud/clients 
> directory.

	Excellent. Would a PC client run on an XT??   :>


> Anyways, I think we should try this out.  I'd love to converse with 
> people in real time and I think MOO is the ideal medium, as I have 
> already used it for such things.  (We had a radical politics discussion 
> list at LambdaMOO for a while)...

	What happened to it??




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