Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:32:41 BST From: Chris Burford <cburford-AT-gn.apc.org> Subject: Bosnia, CPUSA and the left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: LeoCasey-AT-aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:05:56 -0400 Subject: Bosnia and CPUSA I just returned from a week long educational issues AFT conference in Washington DC, where I visited with a number of old comrades, including one former leader of the CPUSA who has far more tolerance than I for reading CP publications. She told me that Gus Hall had been taking the line in CP publications (People's Daily World, etc.) that the reports of the massacres and ethnic cleansings in Bosnia were the propaganda of the capitalist/imperialist press, and was supporting the Serbs. The logic, it appears, is one of support for the "Socialist Party" in the former Yugoslavia (primarily Serbia proper), based on solidarity among former CPs. Are other Stalinist CP remnants taking similar lines in Great Britain, Canada and Europe? It would be interesting to know, and a very interesting reflection on some of the historical questions (Hitler-Stalin pact) we have been discussing the past few weeks. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I have not had time to get chapter and verse, but there certainly are "communist" organisations who are on a spectrum for whom one hall mark of political rectitude is a feeling that probably the Serbs are good, there have been atrocities on all sides, and we must not oppose the Serbs. I think this is a dereliction of a marxist analysis, but it runs much deeper than whether a particular "Stalinist" organisation is sort of morally corrupt, and I do not think will be illuminated on that basis. I quote from a thoughtful post on the yugo.antiwar list, from a Paul Stubbs, presumably temporarily in Zagreb University school of social work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudiger asked: RR>IS THERE - IN YOUR OPINION - A MILITARY SOLUTION TO THE WAR IN FORMER <snip> 2. Lately, a lot of my thinking has been about how there is a convergence between official UN thinking and the peace and left wing movements of (mainly Western) Europe about the wars here. Indeed, by refusing to see them as wars in the plural, and by continuing to use the concept of former-yugoslavia, they remain implicitly or explicitly pro-serbian-military hegemony. It is worth taking the trouble to think about why this is: i. Belgrade as the capital of Yugoslavia was the place which tended to be at the centre of diplomatic activity and also of opppositional and cultural links with the left and peace movements. Many veterans of those movements remember their comrades in Belgrade in the 80's and cannot share in the demonology of Serbia. The best example of this is Johann Galtung in the Schlaining book 'Yugoslavia -war...' (1993). The similarities between Galtung and David Owen are extraordinary. ii. There is a strong 'Yugo nostalgia' which, of course, from time to time I share. But the idea of Yugoslavia was always an uneasy tension between Serbian political hegemony and genuine decentralised federalism. iii. There is, in left and peace circles, some kind of support for nominally 'socialist' Serbia - this is clear in John Pilger's writing and, of course, from Joan Phillips in the UK. So that Bosnia is seen as too multi-cultural; Slovenia too bourgeois, and Croatia too fascistic. iv. There is a strange inverted logic which says 'if the US supports Bosnia; if Germany supports Croatia' we (the left/peace activists) must support Serbia. Of course, this is often dressed up as something else, but it is pretty clear nevertheless. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Now I will post another clip from the same list, which gives a statement from the Socialist Party of Serbia, rejecting the war crimes charge. I would challenge anyone to defend this position on marxist grounds but it sounds left wing. A serious marxist analysis of the national question, and it has been done many times in great depth both theoretically and concretely in the communist movement, means you cannot deny the right to secede. OK folks that's a challenge. The passage below [as quoted to be fair to the authors], is a spurious left wing justification for rape, torture and murder on a scale of hundreds of thousands. It is not marxism. It is social fascism. The trouble is that left wing groups may note this sort of statement and in practice collude with it by saying Yugoslavia is an awful muddle and the Serbs are not so bad, anyway it is an imperialist war, anyway on the left we are weak etc etc - as Paul Stubbs argues in the passage above. Comments please? Chris Burford, London >>>> +Ruling Serbian party considers war crimes tribunal illegitimate and illegal Source: FoNet news agency, Belgrade, in Serbo-Croat 1558 gmt 26 Jul 95 The leader of the ruling Socialist Party of Serbia's parliamentary club of deputies has described the UN tribunal at The Hague, which on 25th July accused Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, Bosnian Serb army commander Ratko Mladic, and Croatian Serb leader Milan Martic of war crimes, as illegitimate and illegal. The following is the text of a report by the Belgrade-based news agency FoNet: Belgrade, 26th July (FoNet): The head of the deputies' club of the Socialist Party of Serbia [SPS] in the republican parliament, Milorad Vucelic, told FoNet today that the International War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague was "illegitimate and illegal" . "This tribunal is operating outside any existing international customs, rules and regulations, and whoever has taken the trouble to investigate the question of responsibility for what is happening in former Yugoslavia will come to the conclusion that the responsibility is borne by the international community and those forces which broke up Yugoslavia and caused the war," said Vucelic. In his opinion the tribunal at The Hague is "absolutely irrelevant and worthless and its decisions non-existent" . <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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