File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1995/95-11-marxism/95-11-27.000, message 240


Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:52:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Jaszewski <jjazz-AT-freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Vulgarities



On Thu, 23 Nov 1995 UticaRose-AT-aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 95-11-21 11:52:10 EST, jim jasz wrote:
> 
> >as any tabloid will tell
> >you these daze... 
> 
> good authority.

	A fact's a `fact', UticaRose...


> so who's defending the Catholic hierarchy ? good find in a search for straw
> men, but
> pedophile priests have NOTHING to do with anything which has been said by
> burns. the injection of that type of garbage is the indefensible part.

	SO we're not conflating Burns with those bums here, are we?

	Nothing straw-ish about the fascists in the Catholic Church -- 
they EXIST.


> wouldnt be surprised if mr. burns would decline to defend the Pontiff but
> attacking the Church has little, if anything, to do with the catholics which
> mr burns represents. it is the mindless and sectarian attack on religion
> which drives the religious to the right. 

	Gee; and I thought it was the totalitarian ideology...

	The only thing _I've_ argued with Burns is his reliance on that
`traditional' belief system.  You haven't clearly made the distinction, as
far as I can see... 


> the left should get over the 19th century liberal anti-clerical binge. its
> about time. and intelligent men like yourself should stop pandering to
> bigots.

	I still think Ralph is a yuck, and we should just let it all roll
over our backs...  As for the `Church' -- it is a CENTER of reaction, and
Burns will continually have to defend its crimes if he continues to wear
that collar and append `SJ' to his messages. 




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