Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:48:53 -0500 (EST)
From: V600A8E6-AT-ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: Re: ON PHILOSOPHY, MARX, ENGELS, LENIN




On Sun, 26 Nov 1995 ROSSERJB-AT-vax1.acs.jmu.edu wrote:

> To Shawgi Tell:
>      Who "established" this?  A bunch of party hacks 
> bootlicking for Lenin and Stalin.  Marx wrote on
> dialectics and a dialectical approach to history 
> he called "historical materialism."  There is much
> to defend here.  He did NOT get into defending Hegel's
> silly notions about dialectical models of physics that
> Engels did fall for (duh, positive-negative electricity
> is "dialectical," hot stuff, and, wow, phase transitions
> between water and ice prove dialectics, duh).  
>      It was
> Engels misinterpretations AFTER MARX'S DEATH which triggered
> my initial contribution to this thread.  They laid the 
> foundation for Lysenkoism (proven to be "dialectical materialist" 
> by that most supreme of Leninist authorities, J.V. Stalin) and a 
> lot other really ridiculous garbage such as the harassing of
> Shostakovich, etc.
>     Don't tell me how "authorities have shown."  Show me and
> us where Marx used a "dialectical materialist" method in his
> analysis of physical reality like Engels did.  Clearly you
> accept that neither he nor Engels used the term itself.
> Barkley Rosser
> 
> 
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Barkley, you are so wrong that I don't know where to start with this
bullshit.  Among other things, you are fixated on labels and you belittle 
correct observations made over 100 years ago.  

You show me where Engels misinterpreted Marx (before or after his 
death).  You show me where any of Marx and Engels's works are devoid of 
a dialectical materialist analysis.  You show me the necessary  
connection between Engels and Lysenkoism...

"In a word, economic life offers us a phenomenon analogous to the history 
of evolution in other branches of biology." (Marx, Capital, Vol. 1).


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
V600A8E6-AT-UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU


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