Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:26:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Jaszewski <jjazz-AT-freenet.hamilton.on.ca>
Subject: Matt, Steve, Ralph and the Whole Damned Thing...



On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Chris Burford wrote:

> (?male) Marxists should have thick skins perhaps for themselves, 
> but the issue is what about other visitors? There are probably many 
> selection factors leading to the marked underrepresentation of women
> on this list, and we should not flagellate ourselves about all of them.
> But where something can be done let us try to do it. This heavily
> gender and genital orientated type of abuse is quite a turn off, but
> probably differentially so for women who are not acculturated to 
> be desentised to this type of power struggle.

	_This_ is how the problem should be discussed... That we would be
quietly `alienating' women _should_ be one of the major concerns here. 
David McInerney also pointed out that gays will be turning away from
marxism if they keep hearing this stuff -- however, it should be
_analyzed_ (excuse the pun), and not condemned, in what comes across as
a petty and prissy puritanism. 



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