Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:36:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Chegitz Guevara <mluziett-AT-shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Re: 100 Years of (Mis)Understanding


On Mon, 27 Nov 1995 ROSSERJB-AT-vax1.acs.jmu.edu wrote:

> To Jim J. (again)

It wasn't Jazz who responded to you, it was me, the Chegitz.

>      At least one place that I am coming from is having
> actually seen a Soviet voting site in "the good old days."
> They were as I have described.  Vote "yes," under a statue
> of Lenin and get your goodies, vote "no" over on the other
> side of the room.  This was utterly farcical.

True, but who here is arguing for the Stalinist bureaucracy's way of 
voting? Better was the old Soviet method, everyone gets together in a 
room and argues and votes.

>      I have not seen a Cuban voting site.  Is it different?
> Does one vote "yes" under a statue of Fidel?  I don't know.

Fidel doesn't get voted for by the general public. If you had paid
attention to what I was writting, instead of trying to score point, you
would have noticed. Fidel is beholden to the council which eclected him,
to carry out tasks which they deisgnate, at least in theory. In reality,
his stature as the hero of the revolution makes him the leader, with the
council rubber stamping him. But as one approaches the bottom layer of 
councils, you find more and more real democracy. Voting takes place in 
the old soviet method.

>      Frankly I think that this is sad in that I am sympathetic
> to the Cuban regime and think that Fidel could easily win a
> real election.  Why stay mired in this dinosaur Leninism?  It
> will doom his regime to death after his departure.

Your equation of Leninism with Stalism is old, tired, and utterly 
disproven long ago. Get a new argument.

> Barkley Rosser 

Marc, "the Chegitz," Luzietti
http://shrike.depaul.edu/~mluziett

I'm not anti-society, society's anti-me
I'm not anti-religion, religion's anti-me
I'm not anti-tradition, tradition's anti-me
I'm not anti-anything, I just want to be free.

Mike Muir of Suicidal Tendencies



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