Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:38:41 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Peter Burns <rburns-AT-scf.usc.edu> Subject: Labels For goodness' sake, let's get our pejorative labels right! M. Strom refers to me and Rosser as socdems. I can't speak for Barkley "Snooty" Rosser, but *I* am a demsoc, NOT a socdem! Demsocs are FOR the abolition of capitalist property relations, and FOR social ownership, democratic workers' control, and public planning <with a subordinate and diminishing role for markets until such times as we can dispense with them completely>, and last but not least, democracy. Socdems on the other hand are for capitalism with a welfare state and little tiny bits of public ownership and planning. Demsocs recognize that class struggle is a necessary prerequisite for achieving their aims. Socdems delude themselves into thinking that class struggle is not necessary for achieving even their scandalously modest goals. Peter rburns-AT-scf.usc.edu --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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