Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:08:17 -0500 (EST)
From: V600A8E6-AT-ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: YOUNG LIBERAL FASCIST


Lazy petty-bourgeois pseudo-intellectual (LPP): So, what's the verdict on 
Stalin; hero of the Soviet people, or butcher of millions?  And how about 
Lenin?  He always stayed true to his Marxist principles, especially with 
that highly principled NEP.  Oh, I'm sorry, I must seem very ignorant to 
you.  Please enlighten me with your vast knowledge.

Answer: It is extremely intriguing that you are speaking in the manner 
of a fascist rather than the Young Liberals to whom you claim to 
belong.  Or have the Liberals become so irrelevant that they have 
nothing else to discuss but to repeat stock anti-Communist abuse 
befitting the fascists who have never forgiven J.V. Stalin for 
organizing the victory over them.

LPP: You're ducking my question.  Give me some proof as to why Stalin 
wasn't one of the greatest butchers in history.  And what about Lenin?  
You didn't respond to my points about his abandonment of Marxist principles.

Answer: As was mentioned before, you are still speaking in the manner of 
a fascist rather than the Young Liberals to whom you claim to belong.  
One of the attributes of fascism is the use of mystification as a tool to 
sow confusion.  Speaking as a fascist rather than a Liberal, you seem to 
want us to condemn J.V. Stalin as the builder of socialism and the 
architect of the victory over fascism.  The Soviet Union was the country 
that heroically fought on the first front and drove the Nazis back to 
their lair and vanquished them.

In the same breath as the slander of Stalin you condemn V.I. Lenin as not 
being a consistent Marxist.  The onus still lies on you to explain why 
you, as a Young Liberal are speaking like a fascist. The onus certainly 
is not on us to dignify mere slanders and to comment on old calumnies 
that the entire world knows originate from the U.S. yellow journalism of 
the Hearst publishing monopoly and German fascists.  You seem to be so 
convinced of these old fascist tales that originate before the Second 
World war, why do you not venture to provide some proof of them.  For 
your information, sir, J.V. Stalin and V.I. lenin have both gone down in 
history as the greatest liberators of mankind.  Their heroic deeds are 
objective and verifiable: the Soviet Union up to the death of Stalin, the 
victory of the Great October Revolution, the building of socialism in the 
1920s and 30s (at the height of the depression) and the defeat of the 
Nazi aggression are testimony to their greatness and indefatigable 
contribution to humanity.  If you took off the fascist blinkers from your 
eyes you would be able to see that.  Just as a piece of advice to you: 
liberal ideology and politics have become anachronistic.

LPP: I find it ironic that you call modern Liberal ideology and politics 
anachronistic when it was the Communist party that promised the people of 
Russia peace, bread and land and then promptly threw them into war, 
forcefully confiscated their bread, and pushed them into the gulags.

Answer: This above paragraph is an indication of your lack of 
credibility as a liberal.  Your assertions bear great similarity with 
fascism as all your claims are not even historical facts.  The victory of 
the October 1917 Revolution ended the horrors of the First World War and 
did not begin it.  There was subsequently military intervention by 14 
imperialist countries, including Canada, against the young Russian 
Republic and not the other way round.  By the time J.V. Stalin died on 
March 5, 1953 all the great personalities of the world, and progressive 
and democratic organizations hailed the Soviet Union of the time as the 
world centre of progressive humanity.


Shawgi Tell
University at Buffalo
Graduate School of Education
V600A8E6-AT-UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU


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