Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 00:07:45 -0800
From: iwp.ilo-AT-ix.netcom.com (CEP )
Subject: Charlotte and Scott: Confusionism


    Charlotte and Scott:

    Charlotte, first let me state that I repudiate the nuts who called
    you a whore.  And Scott: Elsequin is an idiot that cannot make a
    point so he resorts to insults. But your attempt to link his name
    to mine in a post is an all too old of a trick to be believable.
    
    Having said that, now a couple points and I let you go:

    1. Both Charlotte and Scott were speaking about the CPUSA becoming
    a "mass party".  Somewhere in your post you talked of figures in
    the United States of 10,000.  Whether this is true or not is beyond
    the point.  A mass party in the US will be a party of at least a
    couple hundred thousands of *militants*, not paper members as the
    CPUSA is, with a *significant* lead in *significant* sectors of the
    working class and the oppressed.  Something the CPUSA is not and,   
    most likely, will never be (particularly if we can do something     
    about it)

    2. Both Charlotte and Scott has failed to dissasociate from         
    Godenas, Quispe and other propagnadists of Shiny Shit, an
    Stalinist-reformist rump group of vulgar murderers who kill
    other leftists, including members of organizations supported
    by your party (like the Peruvian Communist Party and United Left)
    or by the countries you support (Cuba support MRTA and the PUM).
    You did refuse to dissaciote from those criminals in spite of
    the fact that Godenas-Quispe has insinuated that people like
    Jesse Jackson and Bernie Sanders (people your organization          
    supports) are likely to be considered in the same category as
    those Shiny Shit execute on the left in Peru.

    3. Without any comment on Maoism and past differences your party
    have with Maoism and China, you now appear supporting China and
    China-Castro agreements without a comment.  This is another example
    of you not only very confusing state, but also about your           
    unprincippled stand in even defending your past reformist postures
    in regards to China and Maoism.

    4. Your magazine and newspaper is now calling to defeat "fascism"
    and the "storm troopers" in Congress and to do that you are calling
    to do any kind of unity, namely supporting, once again, the         
    Democrats.  At the same time you have a foot in the LPA and other
    third parties formations trying to block them from any development.
    These positions shows, at the very least, your *real* confusion
    about what fascism is and at worst, your cynical attempt to stop
    any independent movement from developing.

    5. Both Scott and Charlotte has agreed in saying that "Trotsky is
    very complicated" and that you humble working people cannot         
    understand what he said.  You both insist, however, in distorting
    Trotsky and trotskyism to the point of caricature.  Challenged to
    debate you both retreat like rats.

    6. You, Charlotte, has stated that your party does not allow
    factions and tendencies because they are disruptive; that your
    party is *against* building an international center of marxism and
    some other statements that shows very clearly that you are still
    in an organization that is very undemocratic, bureaucratic and
    that you are still *against* internationalism.

    7. Both you, Charlotte, and Scott clearly established that defend
    the Stalin's reationary "Theory of Socialism in one Country" and,
    therefore has committeed yourself to repeat the same crimes than
    the Stalinists did before in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.

    8. Both Scott and Charlotte have no comments, as far as I can tell,
    about some formations such as the IU in Spain, the PDS in Germany   
    and Refoundazione in Italy.  There are left socialists, former
    Stalinists, trotskyists and even Maoists and Greens in those        
    formations .... There are factions and tendencies, they are also
    growing and yes, Charlotte, much more than the CPUSA.  NOw, some
    people in those formations were Stalinists as you are today.  They,
    however, seems to have change at least to a degree in which they
    feel they can work with and argue with other tendencies in the same
    party.  What do you think about that?  


    See, Charlotte and Scott, you need to be aware of one little piece
    of news that you're probaly not aware: the Soviet Union and Eastern
    Europe, your former models, do not exist anymore.  The grips of
    Stalinism of important segments of the international working class
    are no more over there.  You are an insignificant rump as any of
    us now.  So, please, let your arrogance and bullshit self           
    proclamations, get down your pedestals and have political           
    discussions, not insults and arrogant statements. Maybe, if you     
    read and listen carefully you may learn a thing or two.

    Comradely,
    Carlos



     --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---

     ------------------