Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:05:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan A. Alexander" <bnalexan-AT-umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Negri, Spinoza


Two questions:
	1. Why jettison the state/civil society distinction?  sorry if 
this comes late - my mailer has been holding onto some posts for days at 
a time.
	2. What do you all make of Marx's concrete use of Spinoza, hm?



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On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, J Laari wrote:

> David, 
> 
> > Just as the State/Civil Society couplet must be abandoned, 
> > so must the opposition between the material and the ideal 
> 
> Hmm? why then: 
> 
> > ground Guattari and Negri share -- Spinozism. Spinozism is 
> 
> Spinoza if anyone was great theoretician of material vs. ideal opposition 
> or distinction! 
> 
> Would you tell why you think that opposition between the material and the 
> ideal should be abandoned?
> 
> And pardon my conservative side, but Evald Ilyenkov wrote nice peace on 
> "The Problem of Ideal" [Voprosy Filosofii 6-7/1979]. I don't know 
> whether that essay has been translated in English. If that is the case, 
> then I recommend to take a look at it. E.I. tries to sketch both 'short 
> history' of the problem of ideal (from Plato to empiricism to Hegel; 
> oddly Spinoza lacks in his sketch) and the importance of the category of 
> ideal to materialism. I try to write few lines more about that essay 
> sometime later (especially if there is no English translation). 
> 
> I think I should try to explain also my original question to Louis. That 
> comes in another post.
> 
> Yours, Jukka L
> 
> 
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