File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-02-marxism/96-02-18.000, message 601


From: glevy-AT-acnet.pratt.edu
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:56:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Censorship and evasions


Louis P., in typical form, has evaded the issues I raised in my post 
which primarily concerned: a) whether it is appropriate for us to 
threaten a person by appealing to their Net provider to censor their 
posts; and b) whether it is appropriate for "moderators" to partake in such 
threats.

Since Louis has evaded dealing with the issues _yet again_, I will 
included excerpts from my previous post.

Jerry

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: Re: Threats and warnings

On 17 Feb 1996, Chris, London wrote:

> Threats and warnings are part of the range of normal argument.
> They risk escalating the conflict but they may sometimes be necessary. 
  <snip>
> Kevin's remarks, below, however, have  the merit of being brief,
> and clear. While I would not myself formally 
> propose such an action on this uncensored l*st, IMO 
> Kevin's point is one of many, in which 
> subscribers have sought to make clear to Elsequin, his 
> approach is unacceptable. 
> I hope Elsequin will see it to his (?) advantage to understand their
> point of view.
> Chris
> London,  Co-moderator
> _____________________________________________________________
> 	Elsequin, please put your flames elsewhere. You've yet to say
> anything intelligent amidst all your babble, and if you don't quit I'll be
> sure to send your postmaster a message to stop you from sending e-mail to
> Scott, the CPUSA, or the Mar*ism Li*t.
> Kevin

So Chris, identifying himself as co-moderator in this post, *is* in favor 
of censorship. *He* doesn't want to censor Elsequin's posts, but he 
supports a threat to ask *others* (i.e. Elsequin's Net system) to censor 
his posts. 

IMHO, Kevin's post, although it didn't include scatalogical references, 
was more ominous than anything that Elsequin wrote. I gather that Kevin 
is, or should be, supportive of government and/or provider action to censor 
Net posts. Based on the above, I gather that Chris, as well, is in favor of 
government and/or provider censorship. <snip>


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