Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:04:43 -0800
From: iwp.ilo-AT-ix.netcom.com (CEP )
Subject: Re: Mexican Trots- A Query


You wrote: 
>
>Tim,
> both groups had dissolved into the PRT, although they maintained a 
sort
>of "affiliation" with the Usec. They maintained a somewhat uncritical 
>stance towrd the PRD and now, of course, with the Zapatistas. 

    Carlos:

    "Both groups had dissolved into the PRT?"  -- What this means,      
    Walter (Maybe a typo?).

    The PRT still formally exist.  They have about 50/60 members.  They
    maintain affiliation with the Usec.

    The group, the *majority* which went into the PRD -- Democracia
    Radical (about 150 of them) included Tim's friend -- Mora (former
    Congressman).  They stayed there and lingered and finally dissolved
    into the FZLN (see Imprekkor announcement).  They are presently
    about 50/60 people.

    The "left-wing" of the PRD ( several thousands) -- led by Cuahtemoc
    Cardenas is considering splitting from the PRD and joining the
    FSLN as well.  There meetingsd organized of this faction at the end
    of the month -- by invitation only!

    David:

>The "morenistas" of the former Zapatista Workers Party also shrunk 
from
>a high point of the 1980s to a very small group, also orienting toward
>the Zapatistas in Chiapas.

    Carlos:

    Uhmmmm .... Not quite.  They are critically supporting the EZLN
    against the government, but they tended no political support to
    them.  To Ceaser what's Ceaser's.

    Few weeks ago, we had a metting with some of its members.  They
    informed us the the group have actually around 60 members. Pretty
    bad.  Some of the best cadre they used to have are now working in
    the US, with us. They are presently led by Cuahtemoc Ruiz, a very
    corrupt member of the previous leadership who was suspended from
    the party for five years, after a National Conference of the party
    listened to evidence of monetary corruption.

    David:

 They went a few splits also (its where the
>Sparts picked up their group, there). Carlos knows these people well 
and
>I am sure he could fill you in more.

    Carlos:

    The Sparts picked *two* people who had been out of the PZT for a
    few years.  The Sparts got what they deserved, I guess.

    The PTS in Argentina (the 1987/8 split) took about half a dozen
    people from the PTZ and formed the POS (I don't know if still       
    exist)

>   David:
>The "lambertistes", after entering the PRT back in the early 80s left 
it
>after the PRT failure, in part, to carry forward the investigation  of
>a missing PRT, but former "lambertist", believed kidnapped by the 
gov't.
>They also left over the wishy-washy politics of the PRT and the 
increasing
>orientation toward the forces that developed into the PRD. The group 
is
>called the Socialist Workers Organization (OST). I think they have 
about 
>100 to 200 members and play a central role in solidarity with the 
striking
>RUTA-100 workers in Mexico City.
>
    Carlos:

    Uhmmmmm .... A figure of about 70 is more acurate.  But I probably
    wrong.  My info comes from anecdotal info from a couple of its      
    members.

    There is also a group (I know nothing about) from the Militant      
    Tendency (is one of the only three groups the CWI have in Latin
    America).

    There are also two other Trotksyist groups unafilliated with    
    any international tendency.

    Tim's friend, as far as I know, went along with DR and now he is
    with the FZLN (but I'm not sure) --- another possibility is that
    he remained with the borader left wing of the PRD -- he was a very
    close friend of Rosario Ibarra (Congreswoman of the PRD and repre-
    sentative of the EZLN outside Mexico)

    At one point all the trotskyist groups had about 3,000 militants
    in Mexico, and they had about a dozen elected congrespeople during
    a 6 year period in the 80s.  They present situation is depressing,
    isn't it?


    Comradely,
    Carlos




>David
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