Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:31:20 -0800
From: iwp.ilo-AT-ix.netcom.com (CEP )
Subject: Re: Vanguardism and 2 Clarifictions to Hugh


You(Louis Proyect) wrote: 

>Louis: This is precisely what I was talking about. The MAS stands for 
>Movement Toward Socialism, a Nicaraguan left group that wanted to oust 
the Sandinistas.

    Carlos:

    It is becoming tedious to have to permanently correct your factual
    mistakes, Louis.  The MAS *was not* "a Nicaraguan left group", it
    is an Argentinean Trotskyist group and they *did not* "wanted to
    oust the Sandinistas", they called upon the FSLN "to break with
    the bourgeoisie and formits own government" (1979).  As a matter
    of fact, the MAS at the moment of the Nicaraguan revolution was
    still-born, then the party's name was PST (Socialist Workers        
    Party).

    The MAS/PST had little to do both with the Nicaraguan's positions
    of the LIT(CI) and with the formation of the Simon Bolivar          
    International Brigade.  Main responsability with the organizational
    aspects of the ISBB were put on the shoulders of the Colombian
    section of the LIT(CI), the Colombian PST, the Central American
    sections and the American group of the LIT(CI).

    Only three or four members of the PST/MAS -- as far as my           
    recollection goes, were argentinean and *only one* was actually
    acting in Argentenian politics (theothers came from the US and
    Mexico).

    Louis:

 It basically viewed the Sandinistas as Mensheviks while 
>they were the Bolsheviks, the real communists. Now Hugh tells us that 
>Moreno, an Argentinian, was the "leader of this tendency".

    Carlos:

    Moreno was the leader of the LIT(CI), not the ISBB or the           
    Nicaraguan section, then known as PRT (Revolutionary Workers
    Party).  As a matter of fact, the PRT collaborated with the
    LIT(CI) *but did not participate in the ISBB* brigade.  They
    were busy fighting in Managua against Somoza.

    Louis:

>What arrogance: an Argentinian directing a party in Nicaragua from 
>afar.

    Carlos:

    As I explained above, this was not the case.  But, even if it was,
    what's wrong about it.  Did you know that three of the top FSLN
    leaders *were not Nicaraguans*?  One was from Mexico, one from
    Costa Rica and the other from some other country.  Did you know
    that the Sandinista Police Force was trained and *lead* by
    Panamenian's members of the National Guard of that country?  Did
    you know that Gorriaran Merlo, the now imprisoned Argentinean
    guerrilla member was one of the head of the Nicaraguan FSLN's
    police force?  Do you know that Anastasio Somoza was executed in    
    Paraguay --- where he fled after he was overthrew -- by an 
    Argentinian commando force under the command of an Argentinian
    guerrilla leader acting under direct orders and as a member of
    the FSLN?

    Louis:

 What I find startling is that Hugh Rodwell doesn't see how 
>bureaucratic this is, while Carlos, even after being expelled by this 
>very same current, can't make the proper connections intellectually 
and 
>politically.

    Carlos:

    Don't worry, Louis I made all the necessary political and           
    intellectual connections that I need.  But *I will not* change
    history or facts as to make them fit with my own personal
    differences with Hugh's tendency.  People and organizations change.
    I saw some positive changes in Hugh's tendency in the last three
    or four years and I'm open to discuss with them comradely, if
    needed.

    Nothing is worst in politics that mixing your personal feelings
    with the objective annalysis of the politics of other tendencies.
    You are always extrapolating your hatred for the SWP(US) to any
    an all other tendencies -- this talks volumes about yourself, not
    about the SWP or any other tendency.  You are being arrogant when
    you throw around information and characterizations as the ones I'm
    correcting you in this post and asserting those *completely wrong
    and politically innacurate* assertions as valid truths.  

    You did a good job, IMO, in the discussions about Shiny Shit and
    Maoism (unfortunately you lack the stamina to continue and are
    very susceptible to pressure from a couple of friends of yours).
    You should have had continue that trend.

    Comradely,
    Carlos



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