File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-03-marxism/96-03-08.000, message 215


Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 18:49:58 GMT
From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings)
Subject: Re: Why Red Rosa Is On AOL  (Spiritism to help the poor trots)


>>Do you think I would be in the academy? That is a position reserved for those
>>who think that calling a Stalinist-Maoist who defends political murder a
>>cockroach is a greater crime than defending the political murder itself. We
>>bankrupt, working class "western intelligentsia" have to pay for our internet
>>access.
> 
>> Red Rosa
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dear Rosa:
>
>No, I didn't think you would be in the academy. Frankly, I thought you 
>were ...[excuse me] ... deceased.
>
>As for the rest of what you have written above, I agree. I also knew all 
>along that if you were to re-join us, you would oppose those "Marxists" 
>who defend the muss murder of workers, peasants, leftists. Did anyone 
>tell you yet about Stalin? ... Mao? ... Pol Pot? ... Hoxfa. Believe it or 
>not, there are actually people on this l'st who defend those 
>"revolutionaries."  Did you hear about Hitler, Mussilini, Franco, 
>Pinochet? Talk to Louis P. He might be able to send you old posts about 
>them. [On the other hand, I think your personalities and politics might 
>clash].
>
>Did you see the Polish-made movie about your life? It was really quite 
>good. You were a brilliant speaker and agitator -- and a damn good 
>theoretician as well (even if I do disagree with some of your writings on 
>political economy). What do you think about Henryk Grossmann and Paul 
>Mattick? (there's this guy named Rakesh on this l'st who likes to refer 
>to their writings). Of course, most of all, you were a revolutionary. I'm 
>pleased to see that has not changed.
>
>If you ever make it to New York City, please let me know. I'd love to 
>show you some sights. For instance, there are some anarchists and 
>squatters who would love to talk to you. I might even be able to arrange 
>for you to talk to an assembly of autoworkers in New Jersey.   
>
>Would you like to be the moderator of this l'st? We need HELP.
>
>LONG LIVE ROSA LUXEMBURG!
>
>Comradely,
>
>Jerry
>
>
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>


In despair, even King Saul resorted to Necromancy!  Why not the poor trots?

However, unfortunately for their cause, Luxemburg - the real one - was in
fact martyrised by FAKE LEFTISTS unlike their poseur who should be instead
called "Madame Mitzi the Pink Rosa" . 

Luxembourg was actually a revolutionary minded person who gave her
unstinting support, and her life, to the cause of PROLETARIAN REVOLUTION.
Luxembourg did so without cowardly reservations, nor appeals to BOURGEOIS
MORALITY or to the "high minded" judgement of America's Watch, NACLA
(priestly-reactionary outfits regarded as the FOUNTAIN OF WISDOM by the poor
blighted descendants of the social-democrats who assassinated the Real Rosa).  

Can anyone imagine Rosa Luxembourg ever saying: the Bolsheviks are "killer
of leftists" because they did away with Menshevik saboteurs?  Can anyone
imagine Rosa Luxembourg heeding the reports of America's Watch - or its
equivalent Churchly outfit serving the imperialists enemies of the
proletariat in 1917-1921 - and denouncing bolsheviks for "eating children"
and shooting the Romanovs? 

Can anyone seriously see Rosa Luxembourg - the real one - chiding Lenin for
"killing Russian peasants" during the Civil War and the War against
Intervention and the White Armies?  Who do the Trots think formed the bulk
of the Kolchack_Denikin armies? Were they not also "peasants" recruited and
enrolled in reactionary formations by the landowners and the reactionaries?  

Where did Rosa Luxembourg stood on this?  On the side of reaction like the
ghostly one that hovers today summoned by the desperate Trots in their
"defence"?  Or with Lenin, Stalin - and even Trotsky, who himself, in that
PERIOD was "temporarily" a "peasant and fake leftist (Menshevik) killer"?

Like Lenin, we consider Luxembourg as a revolutionary despite her
inconsistent grasp of Marxism which Lenin himself dealt with at lenght. 

We remember well what Lenin had to say about these mistakes and vacillations
of Rosa Luxembourg:

"The eagles may occasionally fly as low as the hens.....
but the hens may never soar as high as the eagles....".


Rosa was an eagle, that is certain!
That is, unfortunately for the desperados in this list, certainly not the
case with the ghost raised by our Trotskysts Sauls!


A.O.  



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