Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:53:46 GMT
From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings)
Subject: Re: Get Your Insults Straight


>Look you brain dead Stalinists, get your insults straight. Your political IQ
>is so low, you can't even figure out the politics you are addressing. As
>everyone else who can read on this list knows, I am not now, nor have I ever
>been, a Trotskyist. Throughout my life, I have been a radical democrat. For
>many years, I used the terminology democratic socialist, and was a member and
>leader of the New American Movement and the Democratic Socialists of America.
>I now refer to myself simply as a radical democrat.
>
>Like Nicos Poulantzas, I think that Rosa Luxemburg was entirely correct in
>her critique of the Russian Revolution, and that it applies to the Leninist
>project in general -- including Trotskyism. What I have in common with
>Trotskyism, and with anyone with a semblance of any democratic principles, is
>a complete and utter distaste for political murder and authoritarianism in
>general and for Stalinism in particular.
>
>Hint:
>I know your political lexicon is not known for either nuance or
>sophistication, and that if you had the opportunity, I would share the same
>prison cell and same wall as the Trotskyists, so I don't want to make too
>much of a fine point for you here. But there are terms of abuse closer to my
>actual politics (try 'social democrat' and 'revisionist', for starters.)
>
>
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"There is nothing more authoritarian than a REAL people's revolution"
Karl Marx


If I was an "ultra-bolshevik" Trot, I will now stand corrected:  This
gentleman of the VIVID brain has finally unmasked YOU as JUNIOR
social-democrats and revisionists - worthy of sharing with HIM - the
disciple of Kautsky the renegade - the same padded cell we are already
furnishing for you lot!

I started this whole discussion by AFFIRMING that Trotskysm was nothing but
the salad days of the scions of the aristocracy of labour.  This HONEST AND
ABOVE BOARD ENEMY OF MARXISM - that is what a revisionist is by definition -
has totally confirmed it.  There is nothing like a good mix-up to get things
straight in the end!.  Isn't that marvellous.  A revisionist wants you in
his cell! PROVING that:  

1.  Trots are no Leninists at all!

2.  You scratch a Trot and you find a social-democrat waiting to come out of
the closet into a cushy non-governmental organisation as a stepping stone to
a parliamentary seat!.

3.  You scartch a social-democrat and you find a martyr wanting to share
their final destiny with a Trot!


This has been a great day for Marxism.  Its enemies all lie in an
unrecognisable tangle in the gutter!

A.O.



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